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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard;14390283 
So you're somehow completely immune to all errors? Not all BSODs are OC related. What if it's a driver issue? My grandpa had BSODs because of a driver problem.

We're not your grandpa, we know to put our PCs back to stock, then try reinstalling all drivers, etc before we start stress testing hardware to see whats dying.
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Originally Posted by Killam0n;14390401 
actually I have read that disabling page file completely can screw up file copying and cache for writing files - Windows needs a small page file (swap file) to operate properly.

"Disabling or setting the page file size too small can reduce system performance and cause instability and crashes within Windows."

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001293.htm

I have plenty of RAM, should I disable the page file?

No, the page file is what helps keep your computer stable. Although you may think there is enough memory in your computer to handle all the programs it runs, Windows or programs that run on it can exceed that limit, which will cause program errors and even system crashes. In addition, some programs rely on there being a page file. If the page file is missing or not available, the computer will get random errors or the programs will not work.

This is completely false, I run without page file because with a 5400rpm drive, it slows everything down to hell when Windows writes to it (Which unlike Linux, it loves to for some dumb reason) and I'm yet to get any difference other than a speed increase.
    
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Originally Posted by Brutuz;14390483 
We're not your grandpa, we know to put our PCs back to stock, then try reinstalling all drivers, etc before we start stress testing hardware to see whats dying.

No. No, we don't. I don't reset my OC, reinstall my OS and start stress testing my HW because I get a BSOD. I read the error message and fix the problem.
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Ya don't disable just make it small....I disabled and ran into a few programs and games that would crash because of it as if they require to at least see a page file even if it isn't using it.

Crysis was one of them....
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post #24 of 35
Disabling shadow copy services and cleaning out all restore points and turning off system restore prior is another big space saver.
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Is it alright to lower the page file to 1GB on a PC with a regular HDD, and 3.5GB of RAM (OS limited)?
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Originally Posted by Volvo;14390593 
Is it alright to lower the page file to 1GB on a PC with a regular HDD, and 3.5GB of RAM (OS limited)?

Sure as long as you don't use up more then 4.5GB of memory
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post #27 of 35
I had 48 GB free in my dad's 64GB M4 after i installed it and disabled hibernation, pagefile, recovery and updated to sp1.
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Originally Posted by tout;14390239 
Why would you BSOD? Don't you know what you're doing by now? It's a waste of space is the point, nothing to do with life of the drive.

agreed, though I don't imagine anyone that ever used Win 98 can give up easily to pagefile
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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard;14390283 
So you're somehow completely immune to all errors? Not all BSODs are OC related. What if it's a driver issue? My grandpa had BSODs because of a driver problem.

I am immune to BSODs wink.gif they can't touch me (or my rigs). I see the merit of your argument, but this can be applicable only to the uninitiated in the art of debugging.
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Originally Posted by linkin93;14390380 
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1GB is tiny. Even on my 32gb SSD it's nothing, plus having it on the SSD speeds up the system vs having it on a HDD or disabled.

True again, but what if they'd sell you a 31GB SSD for the price of a 32GB... it's the same 1GB lost.
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Originally Posted by Killam0n;14390401 
actually I have read that disabling page file completely can screw up file copying and cache for writing files - Windows needs a small page file (swap file) to operate properly.
[...]

No, that doesn't happen. Win XP and latter don't need pagefile. Virtual RAM or pagefile was created to account for different configurations - M$ can't know all users have 16GB of RAM, so by default they create the pagefile.sys file in the root of the OS partition which can be used as free-RAM if one decides to put 7 on a 1GB of RAM rig.
Poor software coding practices that have developed over time when pagefile (also nown as swap) was a necessity (32MB RAM in the Win 98 days) Win's memory management that was quite poor (same Win 9x days) make that apps written back then search by themselves to access pagefile in stead of leaving memory access in Win's hands; when it's not there, they crash.
Two tings are to note: Win XP and later have good enough memory management. As such even though it took a while to loose the bad habits apps are no longer written to search for pagefile and crash due to the lack of it. As a developer I try many things and none has crashed on my rig in the last 5+ years due to the lack of pagefile. One may say "just leave 100MB to be safe", but I'm perfectly safe with "0".
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Sure as long as you don't use up more then 4.5GB of memory

What habits will use up more than 4.5GB of memory?

Assuming I surf the web using Chrome, with an average of 10 tabs open at once; one or two Youtube videos and Flash games.

These programs will be open in the background:
TweetDeck
Live Messenger
MSSE
ATI CCC
EVEREST
Steam

And there may be an application or all three running at the same time:
Photoshop
Cinema 4D
Winamp

Or a Steam game.

Will this eat up all 4.5GB of RAM?
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Originally Posted by Volvo;14391332 
What habits will use up more than 4.5GB of memory?

Assuming I surf the web using Chrome, with an average of 10 tabs open at once; one or two Youtube videos and Flash games.

These programs will be open in the background:
TweetDeck
Live Messenger
MSSE
ATI CCC
EVEREST
Steam

And there may be an application or all three running at the same time:
Photoshop
Cinema 4D
Winamp

Or a Steam game.

Will this eat up all 4.5GB of RAM?

GTAIV could be a killer if you've got something in the background.
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