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Originally Posted by adramalech707 View Post
It comes down to consumers should go with SSDs for reliability, but Industry will stick with HDDs because they are more reliable and less cost to capacity for enterprise uses.
You are forgetting to factor in performance (as stated in the article). Some server usages (i.e. DB) are I/O constrainted. Companies are buying a 4-8 15K RPM SAS HDDs and short-stroking them.... and still getting less performance than a RAID0 SSD. Time is money.

When running that many HDDs, the failure risk also increase as well.

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Originally Posted by KusH View Post
It's only easier when you have the ability to create something better.

Also, component quality over the years have seem to have been pushed to the backburner IMO.
However, when you begin to hit physics limitation.... having the ability to create something better does not mean it will be better.

Component quality is probably the same today. The motor technology is mature, there not that many electrical components, chip fabbing is mature, DRAM is mature, etc.
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Until i experience a problem with my ssd i will say its just as reliable as any other hdd.
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post #23 of 32
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Until i experience a problem with my ssd i will say its just as reliable as any other hdd.
So you're basing your opinion on only your experience? If I saw a high failure rate among the community I wouldn't claim it was reliable just because I was one of the lucky ones. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, not suggesting this is a current scenario, just stating that when forming an opinion you should consider other experiences as well as your own.
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post #24 of 32
I swapped out my HDD in my netbook for an SSD. Mostly for speed, but also to combat my klutziness.

And no, Waterfox didn't yell at me for using the word "klutziness".
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post #25 of 32
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So you're basing your opinion on only your experience? If I saw a high failure rate among the community I wouldn't claim it was reliable just because I was one of the lucky ones. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, not suggesting this is a current scenario, just stating that when forming an opinion you should consider other experiences as well as your own.
I do consider other peoples failures but i also note that there is an extreme lack of ssd failure threads around here also. I am with most people on this and i suppose untill ssd's have been around as long as hdd's they will always be less reliable in comparison?
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i thk ssd might be better longterm for laptops but for a desktop pc i dont think they can last aslong as any hardrive i still got some 8-10 year old drives that work great.
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post #27 of 32
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I know what you mean. I have two drives, a Quantum Fireball and an old IBM, at home that are at least a decade old and still work fine. That being said, I would still say my SSD seems more trustworthy than my Deskstar or Caviar Blue or Black. I could be wrong, though.

Maybe I just think this way because the SSD is more likely to survive... me. Technology-wise, I doubt either will last 30 years.
Me too, I have a Quantum Fireball from 1999 that still works great!

It was soooo expensive back then... For 8GB, LOL
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You are forgetting to factor in performance (as stated in the article). Some server usages (i.e. DB) are I/O constrainted. Companies are buying a 4-8 15K RPM SAS HDDs and short-stroking them.... and still getting less performance than a RAID0 SSD. Time is money.
Yes, but you also got to understand that when IOPS is good and running nested or hybrid HDD SAS 6Gb/s raids are risky they aren't as risky as say running a bottleneck of SSDs mixed with HDDs. The SSD raid will hit the bandwidth limit but will have no capacity. The HDDs mixed in to give capacity will have no performance. Therefore you gain only so much performance and so much capacity.

What happens when you do a firmware update and it bricks an SSD then you either have to hotswap one out if you have another or be running at a lower performance.

Furthermore, with the HDD + SSD mixture, the issue becomes how many write cycles do you want to perform, because you will have to constantly be writing from the SSDs to the HDDs then erasing the SSDs for more current work to have max performance and space for new work. Most enterprise solutions run RHEL or Novel solutions thus the revodrives and other internal sandforce raid won't work with no linux support. Also running out of pci-e motherboard slots. You can have 6-10 HDDs on a motherboard but you can only have like 2-4 pci-e non-consumer SSDs on one.

The cost right now is ridiculous. Paying $500+ for one pci-e SSD when you can buy hitachi ultrastar for half the price with twice the capacity.
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It's only easier when you have the ability to create something better.

Also, component quality over the years have seem to have been pushed to the backburner IMO.
The drive breaks,you have to go buy another one,the HDD company makes more money.
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