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Sigh, I will let the others and forum mods decide if harping on beta BIOS secuirty over 20+ posts is really that necessary or helpful, perhaps you simply just need to stick to official BIOS for peace of mind.

I started this thread almost 2 years back to discuss the mobo and not beta BIOS insecurities or leaked keys. If you still can't get it, go ahead and report to a mod or admin but do consider starting a new thread in a relevant sub-forum if you want to continue to rant about BIOS insecurities, leaked keys and such.

Just don't derail this whole thread for everyone over one beta BIOS for your own sake.
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MacClipper-

Your insults are not appreciated nor appropriate. If you can't act respectful of me and others, then don't post at all. The BIOS discussion is totally relevant as it applies directly to the Asrock 990FX Fatality mobos. Lose the atitude pal. Just because you hold a different POV doesn't make you in charge of the thread or forum. If you're not mature enough to deal with it, don't bother posting.

As far as the Vcore fluctuation under load, you would need to measure it with a digital volt meter or scope to be certain where it's at. F-Stream will show a relative change and IME it can be reduced with the appropriate LLC setting. An overheated VRM circuit will cause wider variation. Four hundreds of a volt is not a wide fluctuation under heavy load, however.

since he started the thread i think he can say if its on track or not with the thread he started
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Well, I have my Fatal1ty almost two Years - and still hard kicking board.

It came with the L0.53 BETA BIOS out of the box - the first shipped board did have this version of BIOS.

The only downside from ASRock to MSI/ASUS is that You can't make any backup of the current BIOS to the
USB - so if You don't make your own database (like I did) - You can't have them all.

For me - 1.90 runs like a charm with my setup, but for overclocking sessions I use the L1.48 BETA. thumb.gif
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To clarify - save the BIOS or BIOS settings?

Let me go look up my test rig storage hard disk later, I may still have a customised version of F Drive which allows you to save your BIOS settings which I had requested from Asrock HQ sometime back...

Yes, it is great that 2 years down and this mobo is still kicking ass with the latest CPUs and looking forward to Steamroller in future, hopefully. smile.gif
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im glad because I bought this mobo after it had been out a couple years. noticed its held its price well.

ive had it a month and glad I bought it, allows better stability on the graphics card and cpu compared to cheaper boards. and costs less than other high end boards. thumb.gif
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To clarify - save the BIOS or BIOS settings?

Let me go look up my test rig storage hard disk later, I may still have a customised version of F Drive which allows you to save your BIOS settings which I had requested from Asrock HQ sometime back...

Yes, it is great that 2 years down and this mobo is still kicking ass with the latest CPUs and looking forward to Steamroller in future, hopefully. smile.gif

That would be nice, thanks.

But still - You can't backup your BIOS from the UEFI to the USB/HDD storage. You can just update it (via DOS, Windows or Instant Flash).
post #267 of 416
I think Asrock has upped their product quality and customer support in recent years. I would not have bought an Asrock product prior to 2010 as I didn't view them as the best quality or engineering. They continue to advance and now offer comparable mobos to Asus and Gigabyte, IME.

Their tech support is better than both Asus and Gigabyte but I wish that these Asian mobo makers would hire a few engineers who's native language is English so that they could properly translate technical docs and Owner's Manuals. This would help greatly with tech support also as the current folks don't always understand the English language well.
post #268 of 416
Well, don't know about their customer support as I just contacted them yesterday regarding my issues. I tried to be as simple and explained every aspects of what's happening with my system, therefore will see the result.
Perhaps I could gain more help from you guys than from them..lool!!!
I'll quickly describe issue here, I've FX 8350 known to run 5.0 using 20X250MHz with 2500MHz HT and 2500MHz NB/2000MHz RAM...on Asus cat...switching to this board, I can't move an single MHz from base HT clock of 200MHz, let alone NB...no way....and RAM, nothing over 1333MHz...so I asked them o check it out if possible if the beast could be unleashed...
RAM is Corsair XMS3 CMX8GX3M2A2000C9...and previously worked like a dream on Saber...here, no way..
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There are a lot of settings that need to be right on each model mobo and they are not necessarily the same as the mobo designs vary slightly. I'll give you some idea what has worked for me and other folks can offer up what works for them.

First off I found that disabling all of the power savings options was mandatory for overclocking. You might be able to enable some of these after you reach the peak overclock but AMD still recommends that these all be disabled if you want to run OC'd. That means that on the Asrock Fatality Pro you need to disable:

Turbo Core
Application Power Management, (APM)
Cool and Quiet
Core C6 mode
CPU thermal throttling
C1E
Fans must be set to 100% (Later you can slow these back down)

Use BIOS V1.80 or 1.90 to start. There is no performance difference between them but I prefer V1.90 as you don't have to contend with John Boy's ugly puss.

I'd suggest starting with LLC set to 25% and use OCCT or F-Stream to monitor the vcore when stress testing. You will always get some vcore drift but you don't want large swings. Also be certain that your PSU is capable of supplying sufficient power as the FX-8350 draws a lot of current when OC'd.

If you use F-Stream and observe the vcore voltage or the number of active VRM phases dropping while stress testing for 45+ minutes, the VRM circuit is overheating. You'll need to add some airflow over the heatsink to fix the issue while stress testing. Blowing the hot air from the CPU HSF over the VRM heatsink can exacerbate the problem so carefully monitor the vcore and VRM active phases. The VRM lowers the voltage to cool the circuit when it gets too hot. The lower vcore voltage forces the CPU to downclock in frequency at the same time.

IME you can OC as pretty near as much most of the time using the CPU multiplier over changing the FSB on this mobo. YMMV.

Set the RAM to 1333 MHz. and up the RAM voltage by .05v, so that you know it is not a limiting factor.

Set the CPU-NB voltage to 1.30v and 2200 Mhz. to start - You may go up or down on voltage at a later time.

Set HT to 1.25v and 2600 MHz.

More than likely you will need to up the vcore in steps to match the increase in frequency listed below.

Use core temp to monitor CPU temp, not "CPU" temp and stay below 61C sustained temp in P95 (for long durability)

Try an overclock using the CPU multiplier to see if you can run at 4.2-4.4 GHz. stable under P95 for ~45 minutes. If good try 4.6-4.8 GHz. If good try 5.0 GHz. FWIW, I have not seen many FX-8350s that will Prime @ 5.0 GHz. I have seen some that will run benches but very few that will run P95 stable with normal CPU cooling.

If you are able to get in the 4.7-5.0 GHz. range P95 stable then you know the mobo is capable. From that point on you can start from the default 4.0 GHz. CPU frequency and up the FSB. If this doesn't work then you know that the issue is how you're trying to OC the CPU, not the mobo per se. If that turns out to be the case then you can intelligently discuss your test results with Asrock Tech. You could have something as simple as a RAM compatibility issue creating issues on the Asrock mobo?

FYI, I spent several months working out all of the settings to get the most from my CPU/RAM. What you achieved on another mobo is not necessarily what you will get with this or another mobo. Mobo to mobo of the same model can vary in overclockability and there are no guarantees. As an example one person working to set a RAM record is currently testing 600 DIMMs all of the same high quality and specifications - in order to find the best of the best. There is always minor variations in hardware and you might get one in a hundred or one in a thousand mobos or CPUs or DIMMs that is superior to the rest.
Edited by AMD4ME - 5/28/13 at 4:55pm
post #270 of 416
Almost all of these I've done as described. However, I can OC the CPU using multi only, but...there's one but, RAM wouldn't go into sweet 2000MHz zone no matter what I try. What do I need is 19X250MHz for total of 4750MHz on CPU, 10X250MHz for an HT total as 2500MHz, 2500MHz for an NB and this will give me 2000MHz on my RAM...that sweet combination did the miracles on my late Saber...feel very sorry swapping this one now. I ma not looking into high OC, stability is paramount, I am even happy with 4500MHz...but I do want that NB and RAM at that specs as I wrote above...trust me, that works as sweet as you wouldn't believe that we are talking about AMD CPU...
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