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In a very limited sense, yes. It's essentially no different from the way it is with Sandy Bridge... you can squeeze out 5 MHz.
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sandy's have a problem reaching 6ghz .. and its not because of the architecture ....


its because of the limited multi's ... only a very golden chip made 6ghz in the hand of the best ....


search hwbot for proof on how many made it to 6ghz allready and google the reasons as to why no one else made it far on ln2 ....


proof http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cpu-z/ran...processor_2277


only 2 in the 6ghz range ... yes .. barely doing 6ghz ... and nickish is one of the best ... duh!!!


so you still thinks 6ghz will be a breeze on ivy ????





bclk oc'ing is back???


source???
SB is not what we're discussing here it was simply a reference for what could be to come.

We shall see.
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SB is not what we're discussing here it was simply a reference for what could be to come.

We shall see.
without all the variable we dont really know .. .so those assumption of an easy 6ghz are wrong ...


and that was my point ... i pointed out that sandy was so hard to reach 6ghz compared to nehalem ... yet smaller process ... cooler running cpu's ... yet only 2 person made it there ...


why would ivy make it easier ????


with a possible no bclk oc'ing ... so again .. all points out so far that they wont make it so easily

and btw what was discused here was that 6ghz wasnt easy .. yet you made it sound like it should be .. just because they will have tri-gate transistors and on 22nm fab process ....
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without all the variable we dont really know .. .so those assumption of an easy 6ghz are wrong ...


and that was my point ... i pointed out that sandy was so hard to reach 6ghz compared to nehalem ... yet smaller process ... cooler running cpu's ... yet only 2 person made it there ...


why would ivy make it easier ????


with a possible no bclk oc'ing ... so again .. all points out so far that they wont make it so easily

and btw what was discused here was that 6ghz wasnt easy .. yet you made it sound like it should be .. just because they will have tri-gate transistors and on 22nm fab process ....
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bclk oc'ing is back???
http://flyingsuicide.net/news/exclus...ase-clock-news

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Base clock overclocking returns once more, but with a twist. Much like overclocking an old Pentium 2 using DIP switches for 66MHz, 84MHz or 100MHz there will be various “base†speeds for the BCLK which can then be fine-tuned by up to 5% in either direction. This means that selecting a BCLK of 100MHz will allow a fine-tuning range of 95MHz to 105MHz. Unfortunately, we don’t know the base speeds at this moment in time but expect an update as soon as we know.
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In a very limited sense, yes. It's essentially no different from the way it is with Sandy Bridge... you can squeeze out 5 MHz.
Read it again. It's going to have different base clocks ie.. 100, 125, 150, 175. 175 X 40X multi = 7Ghz
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Read it again. It's going to have different base clocks ie.. 100, 125, 150, 175. 175 X 40X multi = 7Ghz
That's terribly stupid.

What if your CPU could get stable at 149 MHz, but not 150 MHz, and you can't actually set 149 MHz so you have to set the much lower 125 MHz?

And what's the point of not just letting us raise the bclk in 1 MHz increments anyway?
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That's terribly stupid.

What if your CPU could get stable at 149 MHz, but not 150 MHz, and you can't actually set 149 MHz so you have to set the much lower 125 MHz?

And what's the point of not just letting us raise the bclk in 1 MHz increments anyway?
Everything is connected to the DMI in Sandy Bridge which is why base clock overclocking doesn't work beyond a certain point.. 107 on my MIVE but this is great news for overclockers. Even with a modest 125 base clock and a 50X multi gives you 6.2Ghz
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Everything is connected to the DMI in Sandy Bridge which is why base clock overclocking doesn't work beyond a certain point.. 107 on my MIVE but this is great news for overclockers. Even with a modest 125 base clock and a 50X multi gives you 6.2Ghz
That still doesn't explain why we can't have the freedom to manually set the bclk in increments of 1 MHz. It's good news compared to SB, yes, but it's still lacking compared to older Intel architectures. It's like releasing a product with a feature, keeping it for a couple revisions, then dropping it, then adding it again and marketing it as some wonderful new technology
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http://flyingsuicide.net/news/exclus...ase-clock-news





Read it again. It's going to have different base clocks ie.. 100, 125, 150, 175. 175 X 40X multi = 7Ghz


LOL you sir assume too much ... ohhh and btw if i assume that bd will oc like a monster and be epic you'd call me a fanboy because i dont have factual evidence ... yet you do just the same based on some speculations or some wild rumors ...



my initial statement still stands ... until we see otherwise .... ivy wont oc like a monster


ohh and multi + base clock doesnt mean the chip will actually go there ....


and btw the different baseclocks werent announced as to wich would they be ... so your speculation on the speed they would be is just that .... speculation ...
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That still doesn't explain why we can't have the freedom to manually set the bclk in increments of 1 MHz.
Because intel thinks this is the best way to go forward with chip development and who are we to argue? Sandy Bridge E is going to be the same exact way. Different DMI base clocks to overclocked locked processors. I'm not complaining.
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