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No where did i mention the performance of BD nor is that relative to upgrade paths....
1155 is ending with IB. So unless the 1155 Ivys are better than octocore BDs, AMx is a better upgrade path ATM.

I'm trying to debunk ridiculous claims.

Also, there have been no ES leaks that haven't proven to be false. OBR doesn't even have a real BD ES. And even if there were, engineering samples are usually terrible performers. Remember back when the Athlon 64 engineering sample leak occurred years ago? It scored around 5300 in PCMark 2002. Then the real deal scored more than 7000.

Just because a socket is lasting longer doesn't mean it's a better upgrade path if the upcoming CPUs for another socket are better.
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1155 is ending with IB. So unless the 1155 Ivys are better than octocore BDs, AMx is a better upgrade path ATM.



I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm trying to debunk ridiculous claims.

Also, there have been no ES leaks that haven't proven to be false. OBR doesn't even have a real BD ES. And even if there were, engineering samples are usually terrible performers. Remember back when the Athlon 64 engineering sample leak occurred years ago? It scored around 5300 in PCMark 2002. Then the real deal scored more than 7000.

Just because a socket is lasting longer doesn't mean it's a better upgrade path if the upcoming CPUs for another socket are better.

Hi, you've been going at this for a while...


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Also, there have been no ES leaks that haven't proven to be false. OBR doesn't even have a real BD ES. And even if there were, engineering samples are usually terrible performers. Remember back when the Athlon 64 engineering sample leak occurred years ago? It scored around 5300 in PCMark 2002. Then the real deal scored more than 7000.

Just because a socket is lasting longer doesn't mean it's a better upgrade path if the upcoming CPUs for another socket are better.
OBR may be a douche but he obviously had the chips. Just because you'd like to say that he faked everything its just not possible.

Why are all amd fans under the assumption that BD is going to destroy SB? Do you have some inside information? Ofcourse not. You just WANT bd to be faster then SB to appease yourselves because you think intel is the devil. I can't wait for the day when BD gets released and your whole world comes crashing down.

Lastly socket path...

AM3+ - EOL - 8 Months till FM2
1155 - 20+ Months till Haswell
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OBR may be a douche but he obviously had the chips. Just because you'd like to say that he faked everything its just not possible.

Why are all amd fans under the assumption that BD is going to destroy SB? Do you have some inside information? Ofcourse not. You just WANT bd to be faster then SB to appease yourselves because you think intel is the devil. I can't wait for the day when BD gets released and your whole world comes crashing down.

Lastly socket path...

AM3+ - EOL - 8 Months till FM2
1155 - 20+ Months till Haswell
It was in a recent post on the Bulldozer Blog thread, some foreign site claims OBR has no ES.

I can't wait for the day Intel fans realize that their CPU maker is not immortal.

And again no one can say if the 1155 IBs will be faster than BD. But if they won't be, then it doesn't matter if the socket lasts longer.
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OBR may be a douche but he obviously had the chips.

not sure about that
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I really hoppe that BD blows everyone's expectations and intel decides to release IB much earlier than previously planned. Going to build a new rig around december/january which means i have to wait a couple of months more for IB to released.
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1155 is still a better upgrade path than BD. AM3+ and BD owners will be S.O.L come next year when BD-E and FM2 come out... Thanks AMD
?? and what does Intel do? Oh yea, they make you buy a socket every year... so what exactly are you saying?

And AM3+ can work in an AM3 board, from those manufacturers that support it with a bios update (several manufacturers have already pledged support). FM2, yes that's a new socket. But what exactly are you criticizing AMD for when Intel changes sockets on a whim every time? It's really laughable.
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Why the hell are people comparing chips with fewer, more powerful cores to chips with more, but less powerful cores? They will be better suited to different tasks.

Ivy will be the better option for gaming and general purpose.
BD will offer good value for heavily threaded applications.

For most people, Ivy will be the better option, as per core performance will be much better. BD will be great for video editing or budget servers.

Saying that the one is better than the other, without saying at what, is nonsensical.
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Saying that the one is better than the other, without saying at what, is nonsensical.
this is way for certain builds I choose AMD and certain others I choose Intel... but I suppose the nonsense is the fun part of these ancient cults (AMD vs Intel, Metallica vs Iron Maiden ecc )
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got bios update for my board f5 Support Intel 22nm CPU not long now i guess
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