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Hi, ive just started a new job in motion graphics and use my PC for most of the work. I use AFX tons and tend to need lots of compositions open at once & would like to be able to RAM preview without getting tons of errors all the time. I initially built my PC for light animation work but now feel like im not getting the most out of my current spec, which is:

CPU i7 920 D0 2.67GHz
RAM 3x2gb (6gb) Corsair DDR3 1600
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GPU Geforce GTX275
MOBO Asus P6TD Deluxe
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I was thinking of getting more RAM, max it out to 24gb but i know i need to purchase Windows Professional to access that amount of RAM. So i was thinking of changing from Vista to Windows 7. Im also updating my AFX to CS5.5 so that i can maximise my 64bit OS. Also considering a SSD?

But i was wondering if anyone had any other suggestions? Whether im overlooking anything? Whether updating my GPU would help too? And how much difference 24gb will make, in terms of me noticing a difference?

Thank you for any response! smile.gif
(And i apologise if any of my questions sound dumb)
    
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6 gigs of RAM should be fine, but twelve would be best. 24GB is just insane and useless

OC your CPU to at least 3.5Ghz (Try 1.35VCore for that) Make sure it's stable though, don't want it crashing during a project.

Also, some 3D programs can render on CUDA cores, but I think it's a big pain to set up. Keep your GPU or get another NVidia one if you are gonna upgrade. Hopefully in the future CUDA cores will be supported.


You got a nice rig for the task though, especially on the 1366 socket, that supports lots of RAM. However, going over 12 gigs would be useless unless you are doing heavy 3D Animation with soft shadows and all the other things in 3D that take a lot of power.
    
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ok... first let me start off saying its nice to see a fellow After Effects member.

1. I use my sig rig for design so check out my specs. Im going to a workstation card because it is overall better for reliability and performance.

2. now personally i dont suggest OCing, i would just upgrade in my opinion to 3.0+.

3. i didnt see what version of effects you had, on that note you do realize it is pointless to go over 8gbs of ram because it is a 32 bit application. Now i will note, if you check my adobe cs6 thread you will see that there is rumors the new effects is 64 bit.

4. Dont forget that an overall great design computer is not just the ram. I dont know the specs for your rig's mobo and if it does RAID 1 and if you have two F3s i would do a raid 1 and get an SSD, thats what i did.


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Thanks for the responses guys!

Okay, im definately coming round to the idea that 24gb is a waste of money lol.

In response to Snelan: I do also use 3dsmax on the rare occassion with the expectation of having to use it more. But im not awfully savvy on OCing, i reckon that like graphicsman said, i may need to just invest in a new CPU... (ive been looking at the i7 2600k)

In terms of graphics card, i have looked at the NvidiaGTX580, but im not sure if that's unnecessary for what i want? And whether my current card is really not good enough to support AFX?

Graphicsman, im glad to see a fellow AFX member too!! biggrin.gif
You look like youve got a nice rig there!! I currently have CS3, so i know that it's fairly pointless for me to upgrade while im still using that. But im just in the process of installing CS5.5.... which i believe supports 64bit OS only. Correct me if im wrong lol?

I do run on RAID 1 already.. so im with you there biggrin.gif but im definately thinking that SSD is the way forward. Seems it's always recommended by someone i talk to. Do you reckon over 100gb would be best?

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100GB MORE! i filled mine up and had to start running all the apps off the RAID and the OS would only run the SSD. In reality i do 3D modeling with 3DS max 64 bit and it helps, i would always love more RAM and will go that route soon but in your case you would be putting Racing fuel in an economical car, not really any reason. Also with OCing, its great but it honestly comes from the factory for a reason, and if you are a noob at OCing why bother spending the time to be in a the middle of an import design project and have your PC crash because you OCed it wrong, no thanks. Personally i went AMD for the bang and buck, which shows now in my 8 rigs (yes 8!!).


As for the GPU, if it works, get a workstation card, you can spend close to the money and you are getting something that is tested and proven to work for certain fields. You would be an entry level person for light modeling so get an ATI card with Dual DVI. Now some people will say, get a 580, which is cool, as long as whatever card you get has CUDA for 3D modeling. BUT its still not a tested and proven workstation card. And in the past i have run into program errors in display with a desktop card. I have even contacted Adobe, installed all updates, tested, downgraded, everything. And the best solution that was recommended to me was switch to it. So i will.
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Honestly, a 560 would be fine, but if you can afford it, go with the 580.


Also, you don't really need to OC that CPU anyway, the 920 is a really fast CPU. You don't need SB just for 3D/After Effects.
    
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You do if you have a million polys or a high detailed texture!
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You do if you have a million polys or a high detailed texture!

Point taken - go for a GTX 580 OP. smile.gif
    
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Originally Posted by snelan;14393653 
6 gigs of RAM should be fine, but twelve would be best. 24GB is just insane and useless
Yeah. Sure. Look at the attached image. Thanks.
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Could be a nice idea to have a good card since more and more plugins use OpenGL e.g. the new upcoming elements from Andrew Kramer (videocopilot).

But what is important to have a nice workflow:

Lots of RAM -- for longer RAM previews and rendering.
Massiv CPU power, the more the better- for faster rendering and maybe more important -> QUICK RAM PREVIEWS!

If you have large comps maybe with particular of form and tons of layers and you change something and you have to wait 1-2 min. to get the new look or it takes forever to make a RAM preview...These are things that kill you workflow.

I`m not sure if you will benefit from a SSD that much (After Effects wise).

I`m using After Effects since 6.5...

Edit: OMG?! This attached image is from the 32bit CS4 version...
Since CS4 there is no problem with the amount of RAM. (If you are on a 64bit OS).
It just creates some more "AfterFX.exe"s...
"After Effects CS4 was a 32-bit application, and it was only able to use more than 4 GB of RAM by starting separate instances (processes) of the After Effects CS4 application to render multiple frames simultaneously."
Reference1:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/aftereffects/cs/using/WS9F936D13-E76A-41e4-BF8F-577132AB4723a.html
Reference2:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/9.0/WSDD65B476-971A-48e9-A5FD-D90E9A2B996E.html
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And:
"Justin's suggestion above applies to 32-bit versions of Windows. For After Effects CS4, I suggest simply running on a 64-bit edition of Windows Vista. This will allow you to access large amounts of RAM without the need for additional configuration or doing any sort of kung-fu grip on your operating system."
Reference:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/9.0/WS9F936D13-E76A-41e4-BF8F-577132AB4723a.html
RAM:
"AE LOVES ram so get as much as you can. The more ram you have, the longer time fram the ram prerender you will have. 8GB at the LEAST!"
Reference:
http://www.videocopilot.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=232853
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I think I lost all respect for your post when you said you have been using after effects since 6.5. Either this is a typo, which I hope it is because there is no 6.5 available.
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