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Doom3 I wouldn't count as native since you do have to get some things to make it happy.

The one thing that does make me sad is that I guess Phoronix got it wrong when they reported that Valve was actively working on Steam for Linux last year.
i'm not sure about all the games, i do believe some of them use cedega for mac (cedega is wine's commerical counterpart with added tweaks), where others are native using openGL. not sure what all is involved in porting the mac client to linux, as i've looked at plenty of source code of projects that are made both for linux and mac, and there isn't anything that screams "too hard".

so its not a flight of fancy to think that one day there could be one...but there are still a lot of problems the linux platform in general has to overcome. mainly some the fragmentation. the sound system and display system in linux is an absolute mess...even tho nvidia drivers are light years better than ati drivers in linux, they hold no candle to the robustness and stability of their windows counterparts.

the other things are just small things to over come, mainly package management, with almost every distro having their own, and their own way of doing things, it makes it hard for devs to make commercial products, if you want to release software for linux, which one do you release it for?

ubuntu in a deb? then what about your fedora users? what about slackware? do you just come out with a .deb and .rpm and then a tar.gz for everyone else? do you give them redistribution rights so they can form their own packages from the binary inside the tar.gz and place it in a repo? how much tech support are you willing to dedicate to the plethora of linux distros?

see tons of things that linux needs to overcome before big commercial companies come out with games and software for it.


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If there was a way to run all Windows games smoothly on Linux then I would be running Linux. I like Linux, but since I primarily game there is really no point in running it. :/

[sarcasm]thanks for sharing that insight with us, you are the first to ever tell a linux forum you'd use it if you could game...you have left us totally speechless.[/sarcasm]
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post #12 of 83
Greetz

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Since I've already posted YouTube clips several times showing how awesome Quake3 Arena can look now, I won't do it again unless asked. All I'll say on that is that so many new games have glitzy graphics and that's about all.... gameplay sux and they disappear from anyone's memory in a few months.

The gameplay in Quake3 is so good that 13 years after it was introduced it STILL sells for 20$ US. Additionally for OCN residents and especially Linux OCNers, the unbelievable degree to which it can be tweaked at so many levels is absolutely compelling. Bottom line it is great fun and there are over 10,000 maps and the online community, though dwindling since the heyday, still numbers in the many thousands. Recommended. On a side note you can get a reasonable facsimile for free in Quake Live, though I much prefer the original.

NEW Games I still have yet to see if Rage is going to make it into Linux but I remain hopeful. However, if you haven't tried it yet you really must try Minecraft. Once agin don't let the Old Skool graphix put you off. The game is brilliant which is why it got Game of the Year from so many reviewers, including Maximum PC magazine. It is available in both server and client in native Linux and there is a decent free sampler. The full version is only $20 US and well worth it. Game of the Year and it's still in beta... should tell you something.
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i can agree minecraft is a good little game, i'm currently litering my landscape with 30 block high renditions of 8 bit video game characters
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I was a bit surprised to see Runescape on the list. Teeworlds looks like another version of kirby but with guns.
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i can agree minecraft is a good little game, i'm currently litering my landscape with 30 block high renditions of 8 bit video game characters
Greetz
There is an app available in which you can place any photo and it will render it in Minecraft blocks. I have one that is 40 blocks high and 45 wide that is remarkable at a distance with normal rendering and amazing at 256.

What's 256 you say? There are awesome mods available (especially from Bukkit) that give Photo Realism (from 8 to either 64 or 256) as well as Minecart Mania for improved railways and also Planes and Balloons. My server has a rial system that if taken from in it's entirety (it's all connected with either manual or scripted junctions) takes you on a roller coaster ride that lasts just under one hour.

One section climbs above the clouds, as high as is possible to go, and ten plummets underground as far as one can go, through a glass lined room surrounded by lava and then back to the surface.

Some people have built replicas of epic architecture like the Taj Mahal and others have just created new architectures that simply must be seen to be believed. I can spend hours just looking at amazing YouTube videos of Minecraft creativity. The Official thread here at OCN has a lot of cruft but also has superb gems within as well as a lot of idea inducing tidbits.
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Doom3 I wouldn't count as native since you do have to get some things to make it happy.
what? lol

doom3 IS native, it even has a nice installer you can pick up from id software ftp servers, and then you copy the paks off the disc into the installed folder, run the game and bam unless you run into some issues, i have ran into some before... but most of the time its as simple as it sounds lol

quake4 is the same way and so is quake3 (quake3 being the easiest to set up, and some distros even have q3 client in the repos such as debian testing)

i personally play quake2 though which is native but not all that easy some times i do have access to a .rpm for the demo which can then be patched and works online no problem, but i run debian so i just compile a third party client and copy my .pak files over
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What is the point? Half of these games all run on the cube engine. There is hardly an advantage of running linux instead of windows.

The only reason i can think of to run linux is on older PC's that cant handle newer Operating Systems and Programs.
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What is the point? Half of these games all run on the cube engine. There is hardly an advantage of running linux instead of windows.

The only reason i can think of to run linux is on older PC's that cant handle newer Operating Systems and Programs.
troll less please

arrogance comes from ignorance, most linux users that knock windows still use both on a daily basis, most windows users that knock linux maybe used linux for a month several years ago and had a bad time because they couldnt figure out how to use a command line
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So I have ut2k4 already installed on my windows partition and it runs fine in wine in direct3d, but I want to run it native. I have unreal anthology so I can't install it off the disk, so is there any easy way of getting the linux binaries to run with my current windows installation? Of course I need the binaries first, where do I get those?
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So I have ut2k4 already installed on my windows partition and it runs fine in wine in direct3d, but I want to run it native. I have unreal anthology so I can't install it off the disk, so is there any easy way of getting the linux binaries to run with my current windows installation? Of course I need the binaries first, where do I get those?
i actually saw some community made installers to work with the anthology, i know for a fact ut99 in the anthology had a community made installer, im pretty sure but not positive that ut2k4 did as well...

idk i was just digging around with google awhile back when i found out the anthology dvd used .cab files and excluded the linux installers that came with each game in the first place looked promising though

PS: unreal2 campaign ending is ******* DEPRESSING! why would anyone ever write the ending to a fun game like that D: ***!
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