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wish they'd lower the price of DDR2 Ram
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Seems like the same thing is happening to DDR3 that happened to DDR2. Over saturation of the market is causing prices to come down. DDR2 hit all time lows then within a week or two was doubled, if not tripled. If we learn from the past then maybe its not bad to stock up on some decent kits and make some money down the road. Seems more reliable then the stock market
    
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Really low timings on RAM is nothing but snob appeal. I'd love someone to point me to a chart that shows significant real world performance between something that's CAS7 and something that's CAS10/11/whatever.

People should learn to detect marketing gimmicks and stop giving their money to companies that sell ego instead of functionality.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/s...-the-best-ddr3
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Look at G.Skill... 122 variations of DDR3. It's like walking into Sherwin Williams and trying to decide between Spa and Blue Bauble.
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Really low timings on RAM is nothing but snob appeal. I'd love someone to point me to a chart that shows significant real world performance between something that's CAS7 and something that's CAS10/11/whatever.

People should learn to detect marketing gimmicks and stop giving their money to companies that sell ego instead of functionality.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/s...-the-best-ddr3
I really hope you are joking. You do realize you are on overclock.net not thriftycomputer.net right? People will pay ALOT of money for components that do marginally better than the next product. You'd be surprised how low timings on ram can beat out ram with higher speeds. I've had my current ram at 6-8-6-18 1T at 1988Mhz and those were keeping up with guys running 8-10-8-24 at OVER 2133mhz. So don't say ram timings are just marketing gimmicks.
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I really hope you are joking. You do realize you are on overclock.net not thriftycomputer.net right? People will pay ALOT of money for components that do marginally better than the next product. You'd be surprised how low timings on ram can beat out ram with higher speeds. I've had my current ram at 6-8-6-18 1T at 1988Mhz and those were keeping up with guys running 8-10-8-24 at OVER 2133mhz. So don't say ram timings are just marketing gimmicks.
They are marketing gimmicks. And I wouldn't be surprised because I know RAM speed/amount makes little difference past 4GB/1600MHz. Wasting money on "fancy" RAM is about as useless as paying extra for the image ripoff companies such as Lian Li or Apple provide. Corsair is also in this category of companies (although they don't rip you off as bad), and their over-the-top DDR3-2xxx+ RAM is a perfect example. You do NOT need that kind of RAM. Put money into things that matter, such as better video cards, LCD's...whatever.

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People will pay ALOT of money for components that do marginally better than the next product.
Confusing getting ripped off and essentially getting beat by any of the following:

-ego aka e-peen
-ignorance
-marketing
-image aka public opinion
-reputation
-life style aka "xtreme" or "hardcore" user

with being "xtreme" is a mistake. In fact, it's pretty damn stupid.
Edited by Baron_Davis - 7/30/11 at 11:58am
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They are marketing gimmicks. And I wouldn't be surprised because I know RAM speed/amount makes little difference past 4GB/1600MHz. Wasting money on "fancy" RAM is about as useless as paying extra for the image ripoff companies such as Lian Li or Apple provide. Corsair is also in this category of companies (although they don't rip you off as bad), and their over-the-top DDR3-2xxx+ RAM is a perfect example. You do NOT need that kind of RAM. Put money into things that matter, such as better video cards, LCD's...whatever.



Confusing getting ripped off and essentially getting beat by any of the following:

-ego aka e-peen
-ignorance
-marketing
-image aka public opinion
-reputation
-life style aka "xtreme" or "hardcore" user

with being "xtreme" is a mistake. In fact, it's pretty damn stupid.
Yeah, Ok buddy

Maybe not that big for performance per/cas
But for me,
I get a much more stable CPU OC with better cas/RAM.
Some people over look how important good ram is to a stable Overclock.

Go OC a 1055t to 4.0+ on crap ram...

As for DDR2...
Pff Mobo Companies killed DDR2.
I was making budget builds for friends with ddr2... I made 3 of them, and then one day the boards were GONE!
GB revised them to ddr3.... Now I got ddr2 up the yingyang and nothing to use it on except maybe paper weights.
Edited by cayennemist - 7/30/11 at 12:13pm
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Yeah, Ok buddy

Maybe not that big for performance per/cas
But for me,
I get a much more stable CPU OC with better RAM.
Some people over look how important good ram is to a stable Overclock.

Go OC a 1055t to 4.0+ on crap ram...
I overclocked my E8500 (the crappy stepping, forgot what it's called) to near 4.5 with some Mushkin Redline DDR2 (before you say that's fancy RAM, no it isn't and never was, it's a small step above mediocre, price/spec wise). RAM had nothing to do with it...in fact my RAM COULDN'T keep up and so I had to reduce the multiplier. Guess what that did for me? Absolutely nothing, cause RAM speed is insignificant and doesn't hold back OC'ing for 99% of people (I dunno what the sub zero OC'ers need in terms of RAM, but I don't really care).

If you want a good OC, get some good cooling and hope you get lucky with the CPU.

PS. Paying the premium for fancy "overclocking" motherboards is about as dumb as paying for fancy RAM. I made that mistake once (going with an Asus Maximus II Formula because my DFI came busted in the mail, as in wouldn't work, not physically damaged), and I'm prolly never going to repeat it. ~$150 boards = $300+ ones. You're just paying for gimmicks and branding.
Edited by Baron_Davis - 7/30/11 at 12:16pm
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Good timing, makes building a new Bulldozer system even cheaper for me
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Ram speed makes a difference with Llano gaming, and that's about it.
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