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The US government requires similar measures put in place on every ISP's main servers.
Really? How so?
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do nothing wrong, have nothing to worry bout....i guess..
Go back to sleep. OBEY. Good boy.
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the US government removes sites after they have been in court and served a seize notice.

the Chinese government has zero human rights, consistent propaganda by filtering, modifying, and blocking sites and services like google, skype, ebay, and replacing them with their own "substitute".

This is not a "point of view", this is a fact
post #14 of 29
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the US government removes sites after they have been in court and served a seize notice.

the Chinese government has zero human rights, consistent propaganda by filtering, modifying, and blocking sites and services like google, skype, ebay, and replacing them with their own "substitute".

This is not a "point of view", this is a fact
lol, and do you know WHY they're doing that? i figure you're still pretty young, so u don't actually think nor see things in a whole picture, but china, or any country with their ability, they'd do the same. why? because, 1 - china' whom holds the largest population in the world, themselves will question, "why must we use others product? yes, even tho its popular, good; BUT if we can make our own product-similar, providing the same features, why not"? this goes to show that a country shall not follow other countries if they haev talented ppl in their own. making every talent count. but this again, like all things therse a up and down side. so pls, be a lil more open minded.

you sir, may think the US is all this and that, well guess what? in other areas we're just as a douche like anyone else. ever wonder why and where our drugs always come from mexico? do a lil research and you'll find your answer. also, this "war" that we're still engaging, is it really still for the ppl? or simply for OIL? i dont see china going broke in trying to acquire oil mines. and guess wat? we owe i believe china roughly 4trillion USd. whoppie doo.
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post #15 of 29
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This is absolutely horrid; I'm appalled that some people even make the connection between the immense censorship in China versus the situation in the US. Censorship in China is rampant, and it is very strongly applied by the ruthless Chinese authoritarian government.

People in China easily get imprisoned and even killed for any claims against the government, its leaders or its agenda. The Chinese government even censors every day news to fit its own agenda, the train crash being a recent example.
In the US, free speech is allowed and fully protected with countless sites criticizing the government (and its leaders); you could only get in trouble perhaps for copyright infringements, but that is barely upheld and the most you can get is a few thousand dollar fine.




Censorship is present everywhere, but you can't compare censorship in countries like Iran, North Korea and China to countries like US, Canada, Western Europe, and etc. Totalitarian and one-party regimes only survive in an environment of oppression and censorship.
Besides, most educated people in all the countries rampant with censorship are fully aware of the situation.
I just felt like this needed to be quoted to make sure the people that skipped a page could read it
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the US government removes sites after they have been in court and served a seize notice.

the Chinese government has zero human rights, consistent propaganda by filtering, modifying, and blocking sites and services like google, skype, ebay, and replacing them with their own "substitute".

This is not a "point of view", this is a fact
That is not entirely true anymore. I don't know if you've heard about the train accident that happened a few days ago in China, but there was an outrage being expressed on their facebook counterpart (waidu or something like that) with over 500000 posts in 24 hours regarding the slow answer of the government. And the posts are still there. The Chinese premier went there himself (this has never been heard of since the massive earthquake in the Sichuan province). They tried to change the focus of the discussion by showing the 'heroics' of the rescue teams on the state own TV, to no avail. The discussion is still going on against the government and they are not censoring it.

As for google, skype and ebay, that is just not true. Google is in HK now, and doesn't censor any results. Skype works great. I don't know about ebay though. As for people using other services when it gets to web search or social networks, it's not the government replacing them, the people just prefer Baidu, go figure. i don't get it either.
Edited by yannickhk - 7/29/11 at 8:27pm
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lol, very nice find
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No offense to you guys, but the US has become far worth than China when it gets to censorship and spying on the internet ...
I think EVERY government does this. I dont think any internet user has.. "privacy"

For example, just think about how much google knows about you. I personally believe that google is the US government's, and possibly other government's little spy tool.

They know every thing from who we email, what we are interested in, And even who are friends with, and what kind of music we listen to now, thanks to Google Music and Google+.

Honestly i think if you're worried about someone spying on you, the internet is the last place you want to be.
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This is absolutely horrid; I'm appalled that some people even make the connection between the immense censorship in China versus the situation in the US. Censorship in China is rampant, and it is very strongly applied by the ruthless Chinese authoritarian government.

People in China easily get imprisoned and even killed for any claims against the government, its leaders or its agenda. The Chinese government even censors every day news to fit its own agenda, the train crash being a recent example.
In the US, free speech is allowed and fully protected with countless sites criticizing the government (and its leaders); you could only get in trouble perhaps for copyright infringements, but that is barely upheld and the most you can get is a few thousand dollar fine.




Censorship is present everywhere, but you can't compare censorship in countries like Iran, North Korea and China to countries like US, Canada, Western Europe, and etc. Totalitarian and one-party regimes only survive in an environment of oppression and censorship.
Besides, most educated people in all the countries rampant with censorship are fully aware of the situation.
You'd be surprised mate. All the bold have been done in the US and just about everywhere else in the world.

The only difference is whether it's visible or not. Believe it or not but news is censored every day in every country, it happens so often that it appears normal and people can no longer judge fiction from fact.

Important things that go on in the world, like heads of banks meeting from around the world in one place go unreported and unknown to most people. Doesn't have to be bankers, can be politicians, government agencies, whoever. Stuff happens that we have no idea about.

I think I've ranted enough for today though, plus all this is getting very political.

Privacy, rights (more like temporary privileges), free speech, tis all a farce.
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