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Originally Posted by jacobrjett View Post
Sorry if im wrong but,

Arent most movies rendered in 24 frames a second? So you would only need a 24hz monitor too watch them at their full motion?

Im pretty sure if your looking for a 120hz monitor, you should be looking at 3d monitors. Some people buy 3d monitors purely for the fact they are 120hz, not for the 3d itself.
120 is divisible by 24, 60 isn't.

I don't use 3d. 120hz monitors are just smoother, so they are great for gaming and movie watching.
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Sorry if im wrong but,

Arent most movies rendered in 24 frames a second? So you would only need a 24hz monitor too watch them at their full motion?
Well if that is true, then I don't know how to explain how when I was in walmart that the 120hz tv's picture was much much smoother compared to the 60hz tv that they had side by side.

Btw, they were playing the movie Cars if that matters at all.
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120 is divisible by 24, 60 isn't.

I don't use 3d. 120hz monitors are just smoother, so they are great for gaming and movie watching.
And while 60hz monitors might produce judder while playing 24FPS video sources, 120hz TVs will NOT help this issue because they are not true 120hz. They only accept 60hz input and smoothen it out with interpolation

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Well if that is true, then I don't know how to explain how when I was in walmart that the 120hz tv's picture was much much smoother compared to the 60hz tv that they had side by side.

Btw, they were playing the movie Cars if that matters at all.

They are smoother because the TV takes a 60hz signal with 24FPS, then creates "fake" frames between the actual frames with interpolation. This is why movies WILL seems moother, yet more unnatural, when viewing them through a 120hz TV. In short, 120hz TVs aren't real 120hz.


For gaming, those TVs are horrible. You should be looking at real 120hz monitors. Advertised as nvidia 3D capable = true 120hz. Otherwise research into it. Sales might bring them costs lower once in a while.


If you are truly on such a budget and cannot wait for sales patiently, one option is to always go pick up a CRT in the mean time to use while waiting for more affordable prices or to even simply test the 120hz out. There are certain specific models that are the only ones that should be even looked at. If this route interests you, you can ask further clarification. Usually this option would cost less than 50 dollars. Most of the time they cost between 5 and 50 dollars used. Just putting this out there. A good way to go on a budget.


^Following the example of that above suggestion, one could also do the same for LCDs. Search online auctions for used models. Might bring them within budget. Just make sure it's a trust worthy sale.
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If all you want is a "smoother" feeling monitor (compared to 60Hz), then you might be better off looking at monitors that support up to 85Hz. You can get a quality monitor that supports up to 85Hz for a lot cheaper than a quality 120Hz monitor.

If you are wanting to use Nvidia 3D, then you need to buy a 3D 120Hz monitor (preferrably Nvidia 3D certified). Not all 120Hz monitors support 3D. Some are just glorified televisions.
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^60hz vs 85hz is not big enough of a difference IMO to justify spending such money.

Not that many LCDs would be 85hz anyway. 60hz, 75hz, and 120hz are the main settings.
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True but a good system can break 120fps easy in almost every game and that would matter.
I doubt this.

Maybe your idea of a "good system" differs too mine -

I run an overclocked i5 2500k, with Sli asus gtx 570 dcuii's, both overclocked too. I would say it was a "good system" but I wouldnt say I hit 120fps in all my games. I get around 65 fps in 1080p in crysis. (16x anti aliasing mind you)

EDIT: I get something few hundred in modern warfare 2, but we all know thats a console game anyway

And about 70 fps in witcher 2, or about 35 with ubersampling.

I always though 30fps was absolutely fine, coming from a console. Never really tested it out though. But i bought dead space 2 the other day and played it with vsync - the vsync was locked at 30fps. And wow it felt like it was lagging the entire time, while my gpu utilization was some 5%.

OP, IMO if you can keep a solid 60 fps thats smooth enough - its smooth enough for the rest of us anyhow, im sure if you got a 120hz monitor there would be no going back, but as long as you stay with the 60hz you wouldnt know it was any better. 60fps seems butter smooth too me.
Edited by jacobrjett - 7/30/11 at 7:41am
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And while 60hz monitors might produce judder while playing 24FPS video sources, 120hz TVs will NOT help this issue because they are not true 120hz. They only accept 60hz input and smoothen it out with interpolation
I'm not talking about TVs, I'm talking about monitors. Completely different ballgame.
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I doubt this.

Maybe your idea of a "good system" differs too mine -

I run an overclocked i5 2500k, with Sli asus gtx 570 dcuii's, both overclocked too. I would say it was a "good system" but I wouldnt say I hit 120fps in all my games. I get around 65 fps in 1080p in crysis. (16x anti aliasing mind you)
16x AA in pretty much the graphical king of games few games even come close. Even Crysis 2 is a major step down so yea majority of modern games should get you 120+ FPS
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I'm not talking about TVs, I'm talking about monitors. Completely different ballgame.
I was talking about TVs there, forgot to specify.

true 120hz monitors will help to eliminate judder, yes.
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I'm sorry but there's a lot to quote.

I don't really want to go back to CRT, I never liked it..

I don't want 3d, I just want smoother frames

So then basically that Viewsonic monitor that was mentioned in the first reply is good? Because I'll just buy that then..
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