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post #11 of 30
No point in getting a 775 system now. Only reason I'm using mine is because the performance is still good for what I do, and I'm leaving soon and when I come back new technology will be available.





IMO: the 775 system is obsolete
post #12 of 30
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Im looking into the i5 2500K CPUs, There around £150 on ebay. Could anyone tell me whats a good Mobo for this? Thanks.
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post #13 of 30
This might seem like a hi-jack but I think it would help the OP's new build decision.

Say you buy an i3-2100 (which can't overclock) which is half the cost of an i5-2500k (which can overclock), and you decide to put that extra ~130 bucks towards a more expensive GPU, would this be a waste of money? I.e. Would the more expensive GPU roughly have the same performance in games as a less expensive GPU due to the i3 bottlenecking the more expensive card.
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post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by Raizy View Post
Say you buy an i3-2100 (which can't overclock) which is half the cost of an i5-2500k (which can overclock), and you decide to put that extra ~130 bucks towards a more expensive GPU, would this be a waste of money? I.e. Would the more expensive GPU roughly have the same performance in games as a less expensive GPU due to the i3 bottlenecking the more expensive card.
The i3 paired with a faster video card would be a better gaming rig than an i5 paired with a lesser video card.
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post #15 of 30
Bear this in mind: Switching out a video card is significantly faster/easier than switching out a CPU.
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Bear this in mind: Switching out a video card is significantly faster/easier than switching out a CPU.
^^THIS

Thats why i went all the way with the 2600k. I just swap out to a GTX 580 in 2 months.
Edited by c0ld - 7/30/11 at 12:26pm
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post #17 of 30
If you are starting a new build from scratch I would recommend going down the SandyBridge route and not the core Duo/Quad. You can get i5 2500K for about £150 from an online store. If this is your first build I would recommend getting everything from one place.

This way if the machine refuses to fire up due to a faulty component you only have one firm to contact.

Couple of online stores worth looking at

www.aria.co.uk (I have used these)
www.scan.co.uk (I have used these)
www.novatech.co.uk (havent used yet)
www.overclockers.co.uk (havent used yet)

A friend of mine recently decided he wanted to build his first machine. As he looked around and found that a pre-build machine to the spec he wanted was going to cost him over £1200. I have just helped him build the machine below. Built my first PC 15 years ago 386SX.(He only got the i7 2600K because he didn't want me having a better cpu . I told him the i5 2500K was good enough for what he wanted).

i7 2600K (I recommended i5 2500K)
8GB DDR3 (I recommended )
Gigabyte Motherboard (cannot remember the model)
1TB Samsung HD103SJ SpinPoint F3 (I recommended )
GTX560 ti ( I recomended GTX 460 1GB)
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Corsair 650W(I recommended)

If he had used all the recomednations above he would of saved neary £200 1/4 of his hardware cost for very little difference in performance for what he is going to use it for. He is mainly going to use the machine to game and surf. Luckly his monitor failed at the time).

The reason I say luckly is that he would not move on the GTX560 ti but his old screen was only a 1024x768 panel.Think he didnt want a GTX 460 because I had two.I did tell him he would be wasting his money getting the GTX560 if he kept the screen.
Edited by just4funuk - 7/30/11 at 12:31pm
    
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post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by c0ld View Post
^^THIS

Thats why i went all the way with the 2600k. I just swap out to a GTX 580 in a 2 months.
Or just get another 570, crap all over the single 580 and you get to enjoy SLI!!! Win win win
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Or just get another 570, crap all over the single 580 and you get to enjoy SLI!!! Win win win
Well swap out for GTX 580 because I have the evga step up program. I can just pay the difference and get a GTX 580. Or should I save for another GTX 570??

Hmmm decisions decisions, I really want to max out BF3
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post #20 of 30
C2Q is faster clock for clock than Phenom II. If they are outdated, then so are Phenom II X4s. Nobody will argue that a Phenom II is outdated, and the only reason to argue the C2Q is outdated is that the good boards are out of production since intel is a good 2 generations past it already.

They are "retired" but they are still plenty effective.
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