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post #21 of 30
I think a lot of people would argue Phenom II is outdated in its speed.

AMD is even aware of that, pricing their unlocked 955 @ half the cost of the i5-2500k because it offers exactly that, about half the actual performance.
    
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I would consider the Core 2's to be outdated. In a rig with SLI 580s or 570s a Core 2 would bottleneck the system in many modern games.
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post #23 of 30
Outdated?

My Pentium 3 runs fine.
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Yes and no. There are not much thing that fully use even Core 2 unless you are going for Max fps.
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post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by 2thAche View Post
C2Q is faster clock for clock than Phenom II. If they are outdated, then so are Phenom II X4s. Nobody will argue that a Phenom II is outdated, and the only reason to argue the C2Q is outdated is that the good boards are out of production since intel is a good 2 generations past it already.

They are "retired" but they are still plenty effective.
This is true, but there's a difference between capable and worth getting. The Core 2 is the former, but not the latter. Even people with good LGA 775 dual core setups are passing on Core 2 Quads and getting entirely new Sandy Bridge platforms, which brings me to the next point.

Price. The Phenom II is a bit slower clock for clock, true, but the things is, they also brought that similar performance to cheaper price levels, so performance for cost is better. Plus, they are still more current/available.

Of course, this isn't just an argument against Core 2, but really against anything besides Sandy Bridge. For a new build centered around gaming, Sandy Bridge is the best option for most people for numerous reasons. The only reasonable exception would be getting a Phenom II due to budget limits, and even then, the argument against that is growing some.

LGA 775 is too pricey for it's performance versus the other options. That even applies to LGA 1366 now too. It happens to every Intel platform once a new one hits. That is because Intel doesn't keep it's older models current like AMD does (as AMD more has to). They just leave the price the same and let it fade.
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one thing to remember, if you are building from scratch, always build it base on the newest platform, sandy bdridge in this case if you want intel.
    
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post #27 of 30
They are long in the tooth but the C2Q's are still going strong. Coming from a C2D I noticed a massive difference..
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Still kicking and no bottle necks.
 
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post #29 of 30
I'm running Q9550 @ 4GHz and OC'd GTX480 @ 840/1025MHz and I have no bottleneck even at 1280 x 1024.. (GPU usage is always ~99%)..


Here's a Q9550 @ 3.9GHz + GTX480 @ 850/1025MHz in Crysis 2 at 1280 x 1024 (which makes this test CPU intensive)..





So in my experience a OC'd C2Q 9xxx @ 3.5GHz or higher is still good enough for the best single GPU card on the market..



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LGA 775 is too pricey for it's performance versus the other options. That even applies to LGA 1366 now too. It happens to every Intel platform once a new one hits. That is because Intel doesn't keep it's older models current like AMD does (as AMD more has to). They just leave the price the same and let it fade
I completely agree, I was looking purely in terms of effectiveness. I think that it is not a good choice to build with 775 at this point, only to upgrade and only in very few cases. I still have no good reason to replace my Q9550, since games all run great at 1080p with a single GPU.

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So in my experience a OC'd C2Q 9xxx @ 3.5GHz or higher is still good enough for the best single GPU card on the market..
I absolutely agree. The first new game that lags my sig rig, I move to another platform. Until then, it stays by my desk.
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