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post #51 of 67
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Originally Posted by kweechy View Post
That's a damn good question. Xeon e7 series chips offer 10 cores on 32nm already in the LGA-1567 socket...way less pins than LGA-2011 even.
my point exactly, and a ***** ton of cache to boot
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post #52 of 67
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The_Rocker makes a good point. Going from 1156 pins to 1155 pins is ridiculous, 2 years or no 2 years. To my mind it's an obvious market-milking ploy. They could have made the core improvements and kept the pin layout the same.

Going from S1366 to S2011 is a completely different animal however, so I won't begrudge them that.
Better question is are the pin outputs the almost exact same when you compare lynnfield and sandy bridge. I'm going to take a wild guess and say no
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post #53 of 67
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Originally Posted by parityboy View Post
The_Rocker makes a good point. Going from 1156 pins to 1155 pins is ridiculous, 2 years or no 2 years. To my mind it's an obvious market-milking ploy. They could have made the core improvements and kept the pin layout the same.

Going from S1366 to S2011 is a completely different animal however, so I won't begrudge them that.


...

it's not just about the pin count.

1156 left and 1155 on the right afaik.
 
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post #54 of 67
Isn't the reason for only 6 32nm cores a TDP limit? The 10 core chip might run at lower freq\\voltage, might also have a higher TDP.

8 32nm cores might simply not fit in the X79 TDP envelope. 22nm Ivy is a completely different story, since it uses 50% less power, supposedly.

Now for the important question: will IB-E procs run on the first batch of X79 mobos? I can see myself going with 6 core 32nm and upgrading to 8 core 22nm later, /if/ I had some sort of guarantee that IB-E procs would be supported on teh first X79 boards.
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post #55 of 67
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Isn't the reason for only 6 32nm cores a TDP limit? The 10 core chip might run at lower freq\\voltage, might also have a higher TDP.

8 32nm cores might simply not fit in the X79 TDP envelope. 22nm Ivy is a completely different story, since it uses 50% less power, supposedly.

Now for the important question: will IB-E procs run on the first batch of X79 mobos? I can see myself going with 6 core 32nm and upgrading to 8 core 22nm later, /if/ I had some sort of guarantee that IB-E procs would be supported on teh first X79 boards.
the 10 core xeon chip i referenced was 130w tdp
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post #56 of 67
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the 10 core xeon chip i referenced was 130w tdp
In fairness though, only 2.4GHz I suppose. Then again, I'd rather have more cores at lower frequency.
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post #57 of 67
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it's not just about the pin count.

1156 left and 1155 on the right afaik.
Thats what i thought. The pin outputs were different
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post #58 of 67
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Let's hope it's affordable.
this post made me laugh, is anything intel puts out affordable?
$1000+ for there best cpu out right now is ridiculous, and $180 for there cheapest quad core which is on an lga775 socket which is no longer in production, you have to have deep pockets to buy anything intel plain and simple.

its a good product, dont get me wrong, but its highly over priced
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post #59 of 67
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is anything intel puts out affordable?
Do what the rest of us do

1. Go to College
2. Get a great job where you make over 1000 a week
3. Buy whatever you want
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When we have a Bulldozer discussion we get Intel users (many of the ones here) saying theres no point in making multicore cpus because nothing utilizes them, blah, blah, blah.
The difference is that when Intel brings out 8 core CPUs (and I'm talking enthusiast, not enterprise), they'll have decent per core performance, unlike AMD.

More cores are nice, but if the extra cores come at the cost of per-core performance, I'd rather have fewer cores.
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