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so they are gonna sell disabled chips? wonder if theres a way to uhm.. unlock.. them
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this post made me laugh, is anything intel puts out affordable?
$1000+ for there best cpu out right now is ridiculous, and $180 for there cheapest quad core which is on an lga775 socket which is no longer in production, you have to have deep pockets to buy anything intel plain and simple.

its a good product, dont get me wrong, but its highly over priced
Ever heard of 2500K & 2600K?

The 2500K is $179 at Microcenter, $215 from Amazon.

2600K is $300 which in most cases matches their $1000 CPU.
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Also^^^^ For 55.00 you can buy an e 5800 3.2 dual core cpu that Is more powerful than any other cpu in the budget class,and great bang for the buck.
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Also^^^^ For 55.00 you can buy an e 5800 3.2 dual core cpu that Is more powerful than any other cpu in the budget class,and great bang for the buck.
And soon we'll have Dual Core Celeron's based on Sandy Bridge for the uber expensive price of $42!
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Until my 950 starts to hold me back in gaming, I don't really care about sand bridge and Ivy.
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That's a damn good question. Xeon e7 series chips offer 10 cores on 32nm already in the LGA-1567 socket...way less pins than LGA-2011 even.
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my point exactly, and a ***** ton of cache to boot
Because that chip doesn't need to be overclocked. Server chips that go into servers farms (like the one you guys are talking about) never get oc'd because server mobos don't even support it.

Sure some of us run them on regular mobos and do it anyways, but I'm willing to bet that if someone tried to oc with that chip, it wouldn't do very well. Note the low frequency (2.4ghz) compared to the i7 3960's 3.3ghz frequency.

At the end of the day all of these chips are restricted by the 130w tdp limit, and on 32nm they can only squeeze so many cores at a certain frequency into a CPU. And for an Extreme CPU, the emphasis will be on unlocked multi and overclocking.

So it's not that Intel couldn't make an 8 core CPU and clock it at 2.8ghz or something. It's just that 1) yield will be low so they're saving them for server demands, where the CPUs sell for much more ($2000 - $4000) than their desktop parts ($1200 max).

And 2) it would probably to overclock it very much if Intel made an 8-core extreme part right now. That will fall short of enthusiast expectations and do more harm than good I think. It's better to release a 6 core part that OC's well and have people wonder if they have issues w/ the technology, than to release an 8 core part that fails at OC and confirm it.

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In fairness though, only 2.4GHz I suppose. Then again, I'd rather have more cores at lower frequency.
Really depends on what you do I suppose. For me, until the software I use starts to utilize more than 4 cores, I'd rather have a quad core running 5ghz stock.
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Because that chip doesn't need to be overclocked. Server chips that go into servers farms (like the one you guys are talking about) never get oc'd because server mobos don't even support it.

Sure some of us run them on regular mobos and do it anyways, but I'm willing to bet that if someone tried to oc with that chip, it wouldn't do very well. Note the low frequency (2.4ghz) compared to the i7 3960's 3.3ghz frequency.

At the end of the day all of these chips are restricted by the 130w tdp limit, and on 32nm they can only squeeze so many cores at a certain frequency into a CPU. And for an Extreme CPU, the emphasis will be on unlocked multi and overclocking.

So it's not that Intel couldn't make an 8 core CPU and clock it at 2.8ghz or something. It's just that 1) yield will be low so they're saving them for server demands, where the CPUs sell for much more ($2000 - $4000) than their desktop parts ($1200 max).

And 2) it would probably to overclock it very much if Intel made an 8-core extreme part right now. That will fall short of enthusiast expectations and do more harm than good I think. It's better to release a 6 core part that OC's well and have people wonder if they have issues w/ the technology, than to release an 8 core part that fails at OC and confirm it.



Really depends on what you do I suppose. For me, until the software I use starts to utilize more than 4 cores, I'd rather have a quad core running 5ghz stock.
but you dont know how well those overclock, you are just guessing. the 5xxx series ones that are used in the SR-2 seem to overclock fairly well so there is no reason to assume that those don't.

10 cores, 30MB cache, Dual QPI Links, 32nm all on a smaller socket. they should be able to manage an 8 core with less cache (20MB) a single QPI link and on a bigger socket. There is an 8 core xeon also with a clockspeed of 2.66GHz and 24MB cache
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