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Athlon x2 5000+ Overheating - HELP!

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Hi

I know there are many many x2 5000 overheating threads but Ive got some issues which I need some help with desperately!

I have rebuilt an old system on an extreme budget and got myself a gigabyte GA-MA9VM-S2 and an x2 5000 (Brisbane) for a bargain price.

I installed these into my dinosaur case with a power supply which reads 300w max (no mention of continous power but it must be low!). This worked fine with the old Athlon 3700+ and I had removed a couple of old optical drives in favour of a new single optical drive setup. The case is ancient and had very little in the way of case cooling, only 2 small exhaust fans (PCI exhaust and drive bay exhaust) together with the fans in the PSU.

Using the stock AMD cooler which came with the board/processor, I ran some processor intensive tasks and it seemed very unstable, crashing and shutting off randomly. I used Prime95 and CPUID and low and behold the core temperatures shoot right up to 80+c very quickly before it either crashes or shuts down.

I promptly changed the stock cooler for a Xigmatek apache (aquired very cheap, looks good but not the best cooler I believe) which had no positive effect on the proceedings. I then decided that the case needed swapping for something better with more cooling options. I have got a new case with a mesh front, 120mm front inlet fan and 80mm rear exhaust fan. This helped the problems slightly, but it only managed literally another minute on Prime95 before everything came to a halt.

I then changed the heatsink/fan again for another Xigmatek, this time a heatpipe direct touch (3 copper heatpipes in U formation leading to a 110mmish tall tower) jobby with 92mm fan. As always thermal grease was applied correctly. This helped slightly again, but the problem is still there, I think at best it might have managed another minute on Prime95 before it shuts down.

This is no good as I need it to do semi-intensive work (encoding DVDs and CDs), and although its not a particularly modern power processor I would expect it to do this without overheating constantly.

I have tried all reasonable cooling options so the problem obviously lies somewhere else. I really dont have money to be throwing at this machine at the minute (work isn't busy at the moment and it was supposed to be a pocket money upgrade), so I'd like peoples opinion on whats the best course of action to take next?

CPUID reports:
Vcore is 1.31v (Ive checked the BIOS, this isn't adjustable! Useless gigabyte board which has no adjustment for voltages or anything!)
VIN1 = 1.94v
+3.3 = 3.34v
+5 = 5.62v
+12 = 12.1v
-12 = 12.86v

Temps hover around 50 @ idle but under any reasonable load they go way over 80 within 5 minutes. Fans are all running @ 100%. The voltages stay pretty constant under load, so does that mean that the power supply can cope?? I have the latest BIOS and unless anyone has the modified BIOS that you can alter the voltages on (it does exist, but I have searched high and low to no avail) I dont know what else to do other than change the motherboard??

PLEASE HELP!
post #2 of 5
That's not normal at all. I'd RMA the CPU.
If there is not such option, I don't see what you could possibly do.

Are you sure of the temps? When you touch the heatsink, does it feel like 80C?
Couse unless it burns your fingers, it could be a damaged sensor and the instability may lie somewhere else...
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I havent tried touching the bottom of the cooler yet but as soon as I get chance I will do. Luckily the heatsink itself is 'stood up' on 6 heatpipes so there is access to get right to the bottom and see just how hot it is.

What does RMA mean? Sorry to sound such a novice! Im guessing I dont have the option as its not something which I have seen.

Also according to CPUID, the 2 cores get approx 30 degree difference between their temperatures when under full load. As I havent checked the *actual* temperature of them yet Im not sure if its a true reading but should there be such a difference? Do you think there is a chance the CPU itself is faulty?
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What happens if you leave the case open, or open the side and direct a room fan at it? Sounds like your case is probably fail.
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Originally Posted by Raybentos View Post
I havent tried touching the bottom of the cooler yet but as soon as I get chance I will do. Luckily the heatsink itself is 'stood up' on 6 heatpipes so there is access to get right to the bottom and see just how hot it is.

What does RMA mean? Sorry to sound such a novice! Im guessing I dont have the option as its not something which I have seen.

Also according to CPUID, the 2 cores get approx 30 degree difference between their temperatures when under full load. As I havent checked the *actual* temperature of them yet Im not sure if its a true reading but should there be such a difference? Do you think there is a chance the CPU itself is faulty?
The big difference between the 2 cores is normal for AthlonI series. But such high temps for a cooler on heatpipes is very far from normal...

RMA means to return the CPU to the shop as deffect and get a new one.
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