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Originally Posted by greenhold View Post
F3 1TB, WD Black 1TB . Best Choices you could get.
+1 if you don't have an SSD.

For regular storage, I would suggest either the Samsung SpinPoint F4 or the WD Green 2TBs.
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post #32 of 58
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1TB - Samsung F3 1TB
2TB - Samsung F4 2TB or Hitachi Deskstar 2TB

All great drives which I have had experience with. Hitachi drives are well known for being less reliable, but WD are taking over soon so not sure.
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Hitachi develops enterprise SSDs only and was the first company to develop Enterprise class SSDs.
Err...

I think many other companies were making enterprise SSDs before them? FusionIO for example only develops enterprise SSDs - and they have been since 2007.

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Many think OCZ's Vertex 3 550MB/500MB read/write was first to the market with that speed. Hitachi had those speeds since the beginning of 2011. Many people don't even know about the existence of Hitachi SSDs, which are all SLC NAND based and developed jointly with Intel.
FusionIO's first SSD is still faster than all the new MLC SSDs coming out.

Their newest one only delivers 6GB/sec read/write speeds and a paltry 1.2m IOPS.

http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive-octal/

It's worth noting that these are not theoretical numbers. To be listed at those speeds, they have to deliver them in a real-world software. In synthetic benchmarks, IODrives tend to score even higher...

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Their 400GB SSD can sustain at least 35 petabytes of random writes. That's roughly the equivalent to 19.2TB of random writes per day for five years.
Sounds good, but since this isn't exactly my field of expertise, I can't say how that compares to other enterprise SSDs.
     
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post #34 of 58
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Err...

I think many other companies were making enterprise SSDs before them? FusionIO for example only develops enterprise SSDs - and they have been since 2007.
I'm aware of FusionIO they're not exactly enterprise grade and seems more like a marketing company than someone that's here to provide reliable, stable and solid enterprise solutions.

Sorry I should've mentioned traditional server interfaces, SAS and Fibre Channel and I don't think PCI-E interface is hot swappable which is a requirement in a server environment.


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FusionIO's first SSD is still faster than all the new MLC SSDs coming out.

Their newest one only delivers 6GB/sec read/write speeds and a paltry 1.2m IOPS.

http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive-octal/

It's worth noting that these are not theoretical numbers. To be listed at those speeds, they have to deliver them in a real-world software. In synthetic benchmarks, IODrives tend to score even higher...


Sounds good, but since this isn't exactly my field of expertise, I can't say how that compares to other enterprise SSDs.
Nothing new, just RAID on a stick like OCZ revo drives.
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Nothing new, just RAID on a stick like OCZ revo drives.
It's a bit more efficient than that. That's rather like calling your favourite Ultrastar drives "just another spinning platter".

I agree that FusionIO's forte is definitely marketing - but their controller design is not shoddy. They've had perfect onboard garbage collection and read/write interleaving from the start. No need for TRIM - they've got algorithms that work better.

In the consumer space... up until Sandforce, if you performed read benchmarks you got good speeds, and write benchmarks also got good speeds - but if you performed a mixed benchmark, the drives performed at about 1/5th to 1/10th the speed of the pure read/write benchmarks. Most controllers failed at read/write interleaving. Sandforce controllers vastly improved upon that, and I think the new Intel ones have too - but they're still way behind the FusionIO FPGA's.

That gives them some enterprise cred in my books. But... I still don't know enough about other enterprise SSD manufacturers to compare and state which is better, which is more affordable, which is more reliable, etc.

FusionIO's are probably faster, though.
     
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Gotta admit, 1.2m IOPS is mind boggling.
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There are a few others, but people here seem to be stuck in the past regarding HDDs.

F3s, WD Blacks were all once great drives and they still are, but it's old tech.

What most people here don't know is that Hitachi = IBM and IBM back in the day made some really solid drives before the "Deathstar" fiasco equivalent to the Seagate firmware incident a few years back.

Their Ultrastar line and 15K600 are some of the most reliable and fastest drives on the market. It's actually sad to hear WD is buying out Hitachi's HDD division, but it's a logical move since WD's enterprise class is lacking.
Do you have comparison benches of the 7k3000 1.5tb vs the F3/WD Black? Looking into picking up one of the three, trying to figure out which of the three is actually fastest.
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http://www.storagereview.com/hitachi...ds723030ala640

You're not likely to notice a difference in real-world use. If it's not a boot drive, it really doesn't matter much anyway, but the 1.5TB 7K3000 is $65 on Newegg whereas the 1.5TB Caviar Black is $80.
    
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Do you have comparison benches of the 7k3000 1.5tb vs the F3/WD Black? Looking into picking up one of the three, trying to figure out which of the three is actually fastest.
You'll have to look up the benchmarks for the F3 and WD Black and compare them to the review Snakecharmed posted.

When it comes to hard drives whoever has the densest platters per platter during the time is the fastest drive, atm it's Hitachi, by the end of the year it'll be Samsung with 4TB drives @ 1TB per platter.
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Do you have comparison benches of the 7k3000 1.5tb vs the F3/WD Black? Looking into picking up one of the three, trying to figure out which of the three is actually fastest.
That one is easy. WD Black 2TB is the fastest.

But most affordable always seems to go to the F3, and best value... is for you to figure out.

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When it comes to hard drives whoever has the densest platters per platter during the time is the fastest drive, atm it's Hitachi, by the end of the year it'll be Samsung with 4TB drives @ 1TB per platter.
Second densest platters, actually.

With consumer drives, whoever uses the densest platters usually has the worst seek times. Right now that's Hitachi.

Bad access times unfortunately more than make up for the slightly higher sequential speeds, keeping the performance crown with WD Blacks.

I got a 7K3000 a few days back. I've been benchmarking it. It's not that much faster than my 640GB Black, despite having awesome sequential speeds...

It was cheap, though - I can't argue with the price. It was actually cheaper than my WD Green 2TB. But it's performance is definitely somewhere inbetween the 2TB Green and 2TB Black.
     
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FX-8350 @ 4.6ghz 1.425v Sabertooth 990FX Zotac GTX 1070 Amp! 32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury 1866mhz CL10 1T 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi 2TB - HDS723020BLA64 Crucial M500 960GB - CT960M500SSD1 WD 4TB Black - WD4001FAEX WD 4TB Black - WD4001FAEX 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate 2TB - ST2000DM001 WD 640GB Black - WD6401AALS Seagate 6TB - ST6000DM001 Micron M500 - MTFDDAK480MAV 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
Pioneer DVR-115DBK Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE LG GH22NS90 Lite-On EBAU108 External DVD 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Noctua NH-D15 Fractal Design 140mm Fan - FD-FAN-140 Fractal Design 120mm Fan - FD-FAN-120 Windows 7 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152) BenQ GW2765HT 27" IPS LCD Monitor (2560x1440) Genius Keyboard KB-G235 PA 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic Platinum 1000w PSU - SS-1000XP Fractal Design Define R5 Steelseries Rival 6500 dcpi Mousepad + Desk 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Onboard Realtek® ALC 892 Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers Razer Krait 1600 DPI nGear G-C1601 Card Reader 
OtherOther
Pisen Card Reader Gigabyte M7 Thor 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
VIA Eden C7 1200mhz Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF VIA Onboard 512MB PC2-4200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
A-Data FlashDrive None Fanless Linux 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Headless None 65w Power Brick Antec ISK300-65 
MouseAudio
None Onboard VIA 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe 256MB BFG 7800GS OC 2x512MB Samsung PC3200 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Raptor 74GB/Seagate 120GB Windows 2000 Pro 60hz 17" CRT Brandless PS2 Keyboard 
PowerMouse
Antec Neo HE 550w Logitech G5 
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