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many online games use P2P technology to distribute updates but there is no automated way of telling the difference.
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I made the call the cops comment in jest. Should have put a sarcasm tag on there.

Bottom line: Dude is going to figure out that his network was throttled. He'll wonder why he was pulling at 2MB/s before and he's only pulling 50k now. He'll get pissed, it'll turn ugly, and all because the OP won't just tell the guy to KITFO.

Basically my recommendation would be to inform him that he is getting his own internet connection or he is putting the one you share into his name. He has one week to do it and then you are changing your network password. If he gets pissed then you can REPEAT to him that you don't want ILLEGAL activity going on in your network. No more than you would want him dealing drugs out of your house.

Basically, you have the power here. So own it.
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Originally Posted by The_Rocker;14414767 
Actually.. lets assume he is paying the 80%... Thats more than the majority therefore in business... Person A with 80% share gets overall say. Person B with 20% gets a say but doesn't have the majority vote.

Anyway end of that.

If it is equal 20% splits then you shouldn't be doing anything. To be honest if the authorities were investigating your internet activities and suspected illegal downloading... They would be round your house and taking away every computer in it, which would then reveal the culprit as your roomate, not you.

The biggest problem with that is, you know of his activities and havn't informed the authorities. Im not saying you should, but that would be held up against you if this ever went to court as a case.

So if this was me in your shoes, I would do the following:

If you pay 80%, then you tell him straight to stop. If he doesn't, then you refuse him internet access and don't accept his 20%. If he wants to take you to court and sue for it... Then so be it. But when the judge asks why you denied him internet access and refused to take his money..... His case won't have a leg to stand on and he will be in a bucket load of trouble. Your reason would then be perfectly understandable and accepted as the right thing to do.

If you pay an equal 20% split with other housemates, you need to hold a discussion and see if you all can't have a serious word. If he still refuses then you as a group have to decide if you want to bar him internet access or take the risk and let him continue. If you cut him out and he wants to sue... Same situation as above.

Going behind his back and altering the connection, using QoS, blocking ports etc... Is wrong on your part as his in contributing to the bill.

A couple things. This is not a business venture and they don't own anything. The OP is paying for Internet service and then reselling that same service to his roommate. He charges his roommate 20% of the total cost and in exchange lets his roommate access the Internet. If OP then goes and stops him from accessing the Internet or portions thereof he can't expect to be paid anymore. This is why reselling your Internet to neighbors or others is illegal here in the US.

Secondly, the cops would most certainly NOT come and take everyone's computer. A lot of people on here seem to have some really silly notions of how copyright infringement goes. If you are downloading a torrent that is non-commercial infringement. What would happen is this, say he downloads something that someone is actually currently suing over, i.e. The Hurt Locker. His IP address gets picked up by whatever firm is being paid to track the people downloading the movie. Then they forward that to the right's holder who forwards it to their attorneys. The attorneys then ask the court to tell your ISP to give them your information. If the judge agrees then your ISP forwards your name and address to the attorneys for The Hurt Locker's right's holder.

Next step OP would get a letter telling him that he violated their copyright when he downloaded The Hurt Locker, give some details of the download in question, and ask for a settlement, usually a few thousand dollars. The letter may also imply further action in court if he does not pay the settlement although so far not many people actually end up in court, as these guys make money through settlements, not the cost and time of a trial.

At that point OP would have to convince them that it was his roommate. If his roommate was a stand up guy he could just admit it and deal with the consequences, otherwise OP is in for a lot of headache, although in the end he could probably escape paying anything.
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Originally Posted by BlackDragon24;14415090 
I made the call the cops comment in jest. Should have put a sarcasm tag on there.

Bottom line: Dude is going to figure out that his network was throttled. He'll wonder why he was pulling at 2MB/s before and he's only pulling 50k now. He'll get pissed, it'll turn ugly, and all because the OP won't just tell the guy to KITFO.

Basically my recommendation would be to inform him that he is getting his own internet connection or he is putting the one you share into his name. He has one week to do it and then you are changing your network password. If he gets pissed then you can REPEAT to him that you don't want ILLEGAL activity going on in your network. No more than you would want him dealing drugs out of your house.

Basically, you have the power here. So own it.

Exactly, this is what I have been saying. The OP is trying to sneak behind this guy's back, is lying to him, when he should just tell him face to face, your activity affects my Internet speed and makes me liable for your actions, change your activity or put the account in your name or get your own connection.
Problem solved. You just have to act like an adult.
Edited by Mygaffer - 7/31/11 at 12:13pm
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He did:
http://www.overclock.net/networking-security/1080386-anyway-block-torrenting-my-network-3.html#post14414226
An adult wouldn't let illegal things occur in his house, via an internet connection under his name.
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Originally Posted by aldfig0;14415215 
He did:
http://www.overclock.net/networking-security/1080386-anyway-block-torrenting-my-network-3.html#post14414226
An adult wouldn't let illegal things occur in his house, via an internet connection under his name.

No, now instead of just telling the guy to get his own connection he is going behind the guy's back and limiting his Internet connection. As someone who has been in that situation I can say it won't end well. My idiot roommate from several years ago thought that my torrenting was slowing down the Internet and so tried to block it without telling me anything. Well I fix computers for a living so the first thing I did was check out the router and then I had to confront the little devil. It turned out our modem was dying btw. The kid was late with his rent almost EVERY month, he would pay the bills late so that our electricity would get cut for a day or so, he never cleaned, his room was the most disgusting room I had ever seen. The carpeted floor was always moist and he had like 20 bottle of yellowish liquid I can only assume was pee. He was probably the second worst person I have ever met.
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer;14415116 
A couple things. This is not a business venture and they don't own anything. The OP is paying for Internet service and then reselling that same service to his roommate. He charges his roommate 20% of the total cost and in exchange lets his roommate access the Internet. If OP then goes and stops him from accessing the Internet or portions thereof he can't expect to be paid anymore. This is why reselling your Internet to neighbors or others is illegal here in the US.

Secondly, the cops would most certainly NOT come and take everyone's computer. A lot of people on here seem to have some really silly notions of how copyright infringement goes. If you are downloading a torrent that is non-commercial infringement. What would happen is this, say he downloads something that someone is actually currently suing over, i.e. The Hurt Locker. His IP address gets picked up by whatever firm is being paid to track the people downloading the movie. Then they forward that to the right's holder who forwards it to their attorneys. The attorneys then ask the court to tell your ISP to give them your information. If the judge agrees then your ISP forwards your name and address to the attorneys for The Hurt Locker's right's holder.

Next step OP would get a letter telling him that he violated their copyright when he downloaded The Hurt Locker, give some details of the download in question, and ask for a settlement, usually a few thousand dollars. The letter may also imply further action in court if he does not pay the settlement although so far not many people actually end up in court, as these guys make money through settlements, not the cost and time of a trial.

At that point OP would have to convince them that it was his roommate. If his roommate was a stand up guy he could just admit it and deal with the consequences, otherwise OP is in for a lot of headache, although in the end he could probably escape paying anything.


Exactly, this is what I have been saying. The OP is trying to sneak behind this guy's back, is lying to him, when he should just tell him face to face, your activity affects my Internet speed and makes me liable for your actions, change your activity or put the account in your name or get your own connection.
Problem solved. You just have to act like an adult.

I'm pretty sure there is a reason why OP isn't confronting his roommate personally about the issue. I mean why else would be come here to OCN to ask if there is some clever way to block certain internet connections?

You don't know about the personality of OP's roommate. I don't either. For all we know he could be someone who bites back. By taking away something that OP's roommate is paying for, and completely disregarding the legal issues, he might start screwing with OP by cracking his WiFi password, leeching off his ethernet, screwing with his PC or his personal equipment...who knows.

EDIT: What I meant in the above paragraph is if his roommate refused and OP cut off his internet.
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Edited by .:hybrid:. - 7/31/11 at 12:43pm
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To be fair I am biased against OP b/c of the idiot Chinese exchange student I lived with several years ago. He would always tell me he paid the bills when he hadn't, the horrible apartment manager would come pounding on our door and screaming for the rent, our electricity got cut at least three times, he LIED about everything, and the idiot tried to do the same thing OP is trying to do, which lasted all of 20 minuted before I realized what was going on and then undid the blocking in the router. I am a computer tech, if he had just told me about his slow Internet experience, which I had been having too, I would have done some troubleshooting to figure it out. Which, after I confronted him about trying to block me, I did and it turned out to be the modem. So maybe OP is a great guy and his roommate is horrible but this just reminded me of that little lying monster I used to live with.
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'yo, when your not downloading, could you turn off utorrent to save bandwidth?;

'k dude'

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Next step OP would get a letter telling him that he violated their copyright when he downloaded The Hurt Locker, give some details of the download in question, and ask for a settlement, usually a few thousand dollars. The letter may also imply further action in court if he does not pay the settlement although so far not many people actually end up in court, as these guys make money through settlements, not the cost and time of a trial.

Even before this, he would just get a warning letter, threatening to cease and desist illegal torrenting or they will take legal action. Picking up pirates without giving a warning is pretty rare.
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Originally Posted by .:hybrid:.;14415466 
Even before this, he would just get a warning letter, threatening to cease and desist illegal torrenting or they will take legal action. Picking up pirates without giving a warning is pretty rare.

Actually the guys who are currently suing don't give out warnings, they just send out settlement letters. The porn guys who are suing don't send out warnings and neither did The Hurt Locker guys. Its typically an either/or.

The guys who send out infringement notices are typically not suing anyone.
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