Originally Posted by The_Rocker;14414767
Actually.. lets assume he is paying the 80%... Thats more than the majority therefore in business... Person A with 80% share gets overall say. Person B with 20% gets a say but doesn't have the majority vote.
Anyway end of that.
If it is equal 20% splits then you shouldn't be doing anything. To be honest if the authorities were investigating your internet activities and suspected illegal downloading... They would be round your house and taking away every computer in it, which would then reveal the culprit as your roomate, not you.
The biggest problem with that is, you know of his activities and havn't informed the authorities. Im not saying you should, but that would be held up against you if this ever went to court as a case.
So if this was me in your shoes, I would do the following:
If you pay 80%, then you tell him straight to stop. If he doesn't, then you refuse him internet access and don't accept his 20%. If he wants to take you to court and sue for it... Then so be it. But when the judge asks why you denied him internet access and refused to take his money..... His case won't have a leg to stand on and he will be in a bucket load of trouble. Your reason would then be perfectly understandable and accepted as the right thing to do.
If you pay an equal 20% split with other housemates, you need to hold a discussion and see if you all can't have a serious word. If he still refuses then you as a group have to decide if you want to bar him internet access or take the risk and let him continue. If you cut him out and he wants to sue... Same situation as above.
Going behind his back and altering the connection, using QoS, blocking ports etc... Is wrong on your part as his in contributing to the bill.
A couple things. This is not a business venture and they don't own anything. The OP is paying for Internet service and then reselling that same service to his roommate. He charges his roommate 20% of the total cost and in exchange lets his roommate access the Internet. If OP then goes and stops him from accessing the Internet or portions thereof he can't expect to be paid anymore. This is why reselling your Internet to neighbors or others is illegal here in the US.
Secondly, the cops would most certainly NOT come and take everyone's computer. A lot of people on here seem to have some really silly notions of how copyright infringement goes. If you are downloading a torrent that is non-commercial infringement. What would happen is this, say he downloads something that someone is actually currently suing over, i.e. The Hurt Locker. His IP address gets picked up by whatever firm is being paid to track the people downloading the movie. Then they forward that to the right's holder who forwards it to their attorneys. The attorneys then ask the court to tell your ISP to give them your information. If the judge agrees then your ISP forwards your name and address to the attorneys for The Hurt Locker's right's holder.
Next step OP would get a letter telling him that he violated their copyright when he downloaded The Hurt Locker, give some details of the download in question, and ask for a settlement, usually a few thousand dollars. The letter may also imply further action in court if he does not pay the settlement although so far not many people actually end up in court, as these guys make money through settlements, not the cost and time of a trial.
At that point OP would have to convince them that it was his roommate. If his roommate was a stand up guy he could just admit it and deal with the consequences, otherwise OP is in for a lot of headache, although in the end he could probably escape paying anything.
Originally Posted by BlackDragon24;14415090
I made the call the cops comment in jest. Should have put a sarcasm tag on there.
Bottom line: Dude is going to figure out that his network was throttled. He'll wonder why he was pulling at 2MB/s before and he's only pulling 50k now. He'll get pissed, it'll turn ugly, and all because the OP won't just tell the guy to KITFO.
Basically my recommendation would be to inform him that he is getting his own internet connection or he is putting the one you share into his name. He has one week to do it and then you are changing your network password. If he gets pissed then you can REPEAT to him that you don't want ILLEGAL activity going on in your network. No more than you would want him dealing drugs out of your house.
Basically, you have the power here. So own it.
Exactly, this is what I have been saying. The OP is trying to sneak behind this guy's back, is lying to him, when he should just tell him face to face, your activity affects my Internet speed and makes me liable for your actions, change your activity or put the account in your name or get your own connection.
Problem solved. You just have to act like an adult.Edited by Mygaffer - 7/31/11 at 12:13pm