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Originally Posted by JackC64 View Post
Nice, +1 rep for this, i might wait to see what bulldozer has to offer, btw, would an i5 2500K bottleneck 2x GTX 580's in SLI?
Never! Even at stock... No bottleneck.... And once you overclock it. The word "Bottleneck" would be far gone from your mind.

I just noticed the "2X GTX 580's in SLI?" I quick glanced it and thought you mentioned "2X GTX 560 Ti's" Lol.... Opps, But atleast with my two GTX 560 Ti's I experience no bottleneck.
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post #32 of 49
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Oh my god my Q6600 totally pwns Sandy Bridge. Lol @ people buying SB when a 4 year old processor is only 5% slower.

Erm...Core2Quads were and always will be absurdly overpriced. You do realize that a quick search on Amazon shows me YOUR CPU for $400 new.... So your outdated four year old chip is $100 more than THE MOST expensive 1155 chip, and gets within 5% performance.....

BTW, I call shenanigans on that. Your C2Q simply cannot match a 2600k @ 4.X OC.
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post #33 of 49
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Originally Posted by Kand View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqS341ibbc

This video sold me on the 2500k.

Just imagine the Q9650 is a Phenom X6.
Heavy trolling.
    
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post #34 of 49
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Erm...Core2Quads were and always will be absurdly overpriced.
Well considering they competed with Phenom I which was quite possibly the worst cpu design in the history of cpus... Yeah, Intel charged a premium since they had no competition at all.
    
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Because an i5 can complete more work in the same clock cycle as a Phenom II can, architecturally, AMD is way behind. Still on the 45nm process (until Bulldozer), all they could do was increase stock clocks and add more cores. Sure they're OK processors, but if your going to build a new rig or even consider upgrading down the line, stay away from AMD. UNLESS. You get an AM3+ board and pray BD can offer performance equaling Sandy Bridge.

As of now, an Asus P8P67 + 2500k offers a LOT of power for the pride. Look at some ASRock boards, and you can get even cheaper pairs. And who cares of Sandy Bridge is running dual-channel and runs at native 8x/8x lanes, it still bests Nehalem, and in most cases, Gulftown.
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post #36 of 49
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Heavy trolling.
How so? The Q9650 beats the phenom II X6 in most games.

@OP, the explanation is that AMD processors have been slower than Intel processors for a frighteningly long time now. For your needs the 2500k should be your only choice, anything else, especially ANYTHING currently sold by AMD would be a waste of time.
post #37 of 49
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How so? The Q9650 beats the phenom II X6 in most games.

@OP, the explanation is that AMD processors have been slower than Intel processors for a frighteningly long time now. For your needs the 2500k should be your only choice, anything else, especially ANYTHING currently sold by AMD would be a waste of time.
Ouch! Just bought 1065T and enjoying so far. This is AM3 platform only but I don't care because this is my first AMD build. I actually like the AMD socket compared to intel, probably because I have been an intel fan.
    
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A Yorkfield 775 Quad is faster VS Phenom II clock for clock, and a Sandy is much, much faster then a Yorkfield.

In Oblivion, which has a badly coded and very CPU intensive engine I get a constant 60FPS (Vsync on) with Sandy and with the Q9650@4GHz it will dip way under 60FPS, sometimes down to 30FPS.

Got the same results with a GTX 260 VS GTX 570 and no matter resolution and details, all the way up to 1920x1200. The Sandy will make the game at a constant 60FPS with the GTX 260, while the Q9650@4GHz will still be just as bad with the GTX 570 as it was with the GTX 260.

This is why I have seen a couple of people claiming their Sandy was breathing new life in their older graphics cards...

This is just an example.

I've even seen people posting about their 2500K at stock beating the crap out of their previous 4GHz + i7 1366 in games.

Edit: However, this is only true for some games. Most games are more GPU dependant. But the games who are really CPU dependant will show a big difference.
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post #39 of 49
Clock speed is a marketing plot it does not denote how much performance a chip has.
Its like the megapixel race in cameras specially in point and shoots.
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Well considering they competed with Phenom I which was quite possibly the worst cpu design in the history of cpus... Yeah, Intel charged a premium since they had no competition at all.
I wouldn't say go that far. Bad, sure. Phenom 1 ran hot and underwhelmed in performance. But, early P4 Northwood CPUs with their Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome would get my vote.
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