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It's an issue with the revision of the memory controller (early C2 revs weren't able to push above 1400-1450Mhz with 4 DIMMs on most chips, even one of the top overclockers on this site couldn't do it)
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i have jst read some threads from u xd1771 about the VRMS of this mb, and how it can blow with oc 125w cpus, so should i not oc? thx
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i jst got this board, and wants to set up a raid 0 for 2 hdds. but i cant get the raid setup menue to load. i 1st installed the raid driver from this page http://www.msi.com/product/mb/870A-G54.html#/?div=BIOS then all drivers from this page http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...d_windows.aspx and i have used the bios option to set sata device to raid instead of ide, and when i reboot the raid screen dont come up, instead it says no bootable device. i tried this between all driver update, 2 cpus including a phenom ii 840. i tried with different hdds and never get the raid setup to load. i also put the 1st raid driver on both a bootable and normal usb, and boot my pc, but still no luck. i also instlled the ahcix64s.msi in windows, and it showed the catalyst install manager, but im not sure if it actually did anything useful. help appreciated.

also, i tried to set the ram at 1600 and the pc wont boot, so the cpu dont support it unfortunately
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i jst got this board, and wants to set up a raid 0 for 2 hdds. but i cant get the raid setup menue to load. i 1st installed the raid driver from this page http://www.msi.com/product/mb/870A-G54.html#/?div=BIOS then all drivers from this page http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...d_windows.aspx and i have used the bios option to set sata device to raid instead of ide, and when i reboot the raid screen dont come up, instead it says no bootable device. i tried this between all driver update, 2 cpus including a phenom ii 840. i tried with different hdds and never get the raid setup to load. i also put the 1st raid driver on both a bootable and normal usb, and boot my pc, but still no luck. i also instlled the ahcix64s.msi in windows, and it showed the catalyst install manager, but im not sure if it actually did anything useful. help appreciated.

also, i tried to set the ram at 1600 and the pc wont boot, so the cpu dont support it unfortunately
Not that the CPU Won't support it, It's the board. You have to raise the voltage randomly. I have to do this with my Board too (MSI 880GM-E41) - Amazingly this is not one of the MSI boards that tend to blow up.

Try 1.6V's and see if it boots man.

EDIT : Try 1.6V's on the memory, not the CPU!
post #15 of 18
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Thx man
But the board i got is actuslly tha no 1 blow up board lol
But i will try it carefully 2moro
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Design issues are the problem. The VRMs overload too quickly on processors that consume more power, due to 1. lack of power phase 2. low quality transistors with low rating 3. improper driver design... I could list a lot more, but the basic point is that if you intend to run a 125W CPU and if you intend to really use it (i.e. tasks that often load the CPU), you need to choose reliable and capable parts for it and do your research.

As for your RAM problems, you may need to raise the CPU-NB voltage. C2 revision memory controllers also like raises in DRAM voltage for stability apparently. As the RAM is heatspreadered well, you should be fine up to even 1.7V or 1.75V. But use only as much as you need.

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Amazingly this is not one of the MSI boards that tend to blow up.
This board suffers from the same design issues, I've seen a couple blow ups on it. As you are using a dual core processor (which consumes siginficantly less power than a quad core and is significantly less VRM-stressing) your chances of VRM fail are actually quite low.
post #17 of 18
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Thanks a lot man, i will try it asao 2moro as its midnight where i live now.
Btw any light on the raid issue?
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post #18 of 18
make sure your hdd's are listed right in the right places.
on my board i had to install 32 bit win 7 on 1 hdd then i installed 64 bit with raid 0. only way i could get it to work
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