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Ok so I figured it out guys... turns out on my P8P67 WS Revolution board it was the 3rd party Marvell Sata Controller that was doing it.

I guess since it was taxing the PCI-Express bus via it's 1x 5gbps connection it was causing a conflict with the cards since they were sharing the same bus.

So I basically just disabled it since I run my HDs on the Intel chipset anyways since it's faster. So yeah if anyone is using a WS Revolution board with the NF200 controller, if you have a Marvell Sata controller, try disabling it for Tri-Fire.

So far I've played Battlefield Bad company 2 for 3 hours straight without a hiccup, AND I even OC'd my 2500k back up to 4.7 Ghz and the DDR3 back up to 1600 Mhz, as well as overclocking my cards back up.

So yeah, turns out we figure out something new every day.

I've even seen people with Nvidia cards getting the WSOD (White Screen of Death), so I don't think it's entirely related to AMD alone. It very well could be the 3rd party chipsets running on mobos. Some people have issues with Onboard Audio, while I've found out it was my Onboard 3rd Party SATA chipset.

Also, btw the PSU issue you have all been referring to is not a problem.

I went back to running my entire rig overclocked @ 4.7 Ghz, and OC'd Tri-Fire cards on ONE 850w Corsair TX850 and it's doing just fine.

I've seen a few tests run on Tri-Fire cards before and they never exceed 700 watts from the wall unless running Furmark or something insane like that.

Yes you could make the argument that it would be safer to use a higher wattage PSU, but the fact of the matter is these Corsair PSUs are MADE to run within their spec and sometimes beyond. Of course you never want to run anywhere near 100%, but running a PSU at 85% of its max when the PSU is nearly 85% efficient is perfectly fine in my opinion.

I had an old Rocketfish P.O.S 700w PSU from Best Buy that I was running crossfire 6970s on for ages and bitcoin mining for a long time. The only reason it crapped out recently after 6 years was because it had so many dust bunnies up in it that I couldn't even see the circuitry.


I'm not discounting any of the advice you have given me, but what it comes down to is each individuals personal trial and error to solve issues. Computers are so complex and each build is so unique that the mixture of components can sometimes be a clusterf*ck to sort out. I was literally on the edge of dumping my entire AMD lineup including 4 6970s, 1 6950 flashed to 6970, 1 5870, and 2 5770s just because I was SO fed up with these issues.

I had tried so many drivers it made my head spin. Fresh installs of Windows 7 multiple times, different SSDs/HDs, etc. I could make a list a page long with everything I've tried.

Anyways I hope my discovery can help some of you that can't figure out whats going on.

The Marvell SATA Controller caused no issues for normal Crossfire... only when I stepped it up to Tri Fire did I get this problem. I'll be jumping up to Quad-fire as soon as I get my Fulltower EATX case in. I'm not in a big rush to move up to Quad as the scaling from 2 to 3 cards did not increase much. The minimum FPS is what I was going after and it seems it didn't go up enough to justify the extra power load, but the max fps and average fps shot up substantially. Even @ 4.7 Ghz Turbo on the 2500k, the sweet spot is dual 6970s overclocked to as close to 1 ghz as you can get them.


Take care guys and thanks again...
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Also, btw the PSU issue you have all been referring to is not a problem.
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Don't mind me asking but.. What do you work as? That's some real decked out hardware you've got there!
    
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I've got two ws revo rigs and the first thing I do is diable the marvell controllers lol. That must have been quite the pain in the rear to figure. Glad you got it sorted.
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Ok so I figured it out guys... turns out on my P8P67 WS Revolution board it was the 3rd party Marvell Sata Controller that was doing it.

I guess since it was taxing the PCI-Express bus via it's 1x 5gbps connection it was causing a conflict with the cards since they were sharing the same bus.

So I basically just disabled it since I run my HDs on the Intel chipset anyways since it's faster. So yeah if anyone is using a WS Revolution board with the NF200 controller, if you have a Marvell Sata controller, try disabling it for Tri-Fire.

So far I've played Battlefield Bad company 2 for 3 hours straight without a hiccup, AND I even OC'd my 2500k back up to 4.7 Ghz and the DDR3 back up to 1600 Mhz, as well as overclocking my cards back up.

So yeah, turns out we figure out something new every day.

I've even seen people with Nvidia cards getting the WSOD (White Screen of Death), so I don't think it's entirely related to AMD alone. It very well could be the 3rd party chipsets running on mobos. Some people have issues with Onboard Audio, while I've found out it was my Onboard 3rd Party SATA chipset.

Also, btw the PSU issue you have all been referring to is not a problem.

I went back to running my entire rig overclocked @ 4.7 Ghz, and OC'd Tri-Fire cards on ONE 850w Corsair TX850 and it's doing just fine.

I've seen a few tests run on Tri-Fire cards before and they never exceed 700 watts from the wall unless running Furmark or something insane like that.

Yes you could make the argument that it would be safer to use a higher wattage PSU, but the fact of the matter is these Corsair PSUs are MADE to run within their spec and sometimes beyond. Of course you never want to run anywhere near 100%, but running a PSU at 85% of its max when the PSU is nearly 85% efficient is perfectly fine in my opinion.

I had an old Rocketfish P.O.S 700w PSU from Best Buy that I was running crossfire 6970s on for ages and bitcoin mining for a long time. The only reason it crapped out recently after 6 years was because it had so many dust bunnies up in it that I couldn't even see the circuitry.


I'm not discounting any of the advice you have given me, but what it comes down to is each individuals personal trial and error to solve issues. Computers are so complex and each build is so unique that the mixture of components can sometimes be a clusterf*ck to sort out. I was literally on the edge of dumping my entire AMD lineup including 4 6970s, 1 6950 flashed to 6970, 1 5870, and 2 5770s just because I was SO fed up with these issues.

I had tried so many drivers it made my head spin. Fresh installs of Windows 7 multiple times, different SSDs/HDs, etc. I could make a list a page long with everything I've tried.

Anyways I hope my discovery can help some of you that can't figure out whats going on.

The Marvell SATA Controller caused no issues for normal Crossfire... only when I stepped it up to Tri Fire did I get this problem. I'll be jumping up to Quad-fire as soon as I get my Fulltower EATX case in. I'm not in a big rush to move up to Quad as the scaling from 2 to 3 cards did not increase much. The minimum FPS is what I was going after and it seems it didn't go up enough to justify the extra power load, but the max fps and average fps shot up substantially. Even @ 4.7 Ghz Turbo on the 2500k, the sweet spot is dual 6970s overclocked to as close to 1 ghz as you can get them.


Take care guys and thanks again...


Yeah, and you might want to change your "Core i7 2500K" to a 2600K, or change the i7 to i5. Whichever one works for you.

Glad to hear it was something remotely different. xD
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Too late for me , but I think i had driver related issues. My games were good, benchmarks were poor and stability, especially in Eyefinity, was bad. Sold em, now running 580(s). +rep for the info, I'll go ahead and disable it non the less.
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