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I think everyone has said it but go with the i5 2500k, you do not need hyper threading for gaming and it is a small performance up to 2600k with a huge gap in price. Also, 16 bg of Ram? That is a ton...usually only need 4gb for gaming unless you plan on hosting servers and such. I say go with a 650w powersupply, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139012. Also you are spending way to much on that cpu cooler. I say go for a hyper 212+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065. Also for the case, I would find one that has more fans and a little cheaper if you want to add more to your gpu or whatever.For the MOBO unless you plan on doing intense video editing oc then that price of MOBO is unnecessary. Go with p67 pro or asrock.

Hope this helps.
Thanks for advices
Well i forgot to say i live in Japan , and the prices here are so cheap the difference between 2600k and 2500k are 40 USD (At least where i buy pc parts)
on this computer build im gonna spend 1800 USD , usually its too much for an computer? on my first computer build i spent 1500 USD.
Im not bragging my self but the money its not the main issue.
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Those hydro corsair coolers are pretty loud with the stock fans and they mess with the airflow in the case if you use a push-pull fan setup.

You could get a cheaper heatsink that cools better as well such as the Silver Arrow (which I think is better than the noctua nh-d14 since it cools the same but is quieter)...or if you don't want a dual tower heatsink because it is too large for you (it might cover your RAM if you have tall heatspreaders) you could get an ultra 120, venemous x, or archon (they all have pretty much the same cooling performance) The silver arrow is sometimes a degree or two better than these coolers. The ultra 120 is older so you might find it cheaper. The archon is the tallest but isn't as wide as the other 2.
And yes those are from the same company: Thermalright. From many reviews I have decided that those are the very best air coolers.

I would get the 2600k if you think the extra $100 is worth it since eventually more games will use hyperthreading. Unless you prefer to save that money for future upgrades.
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post #23 of 39
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Well i'll do some overclock's on some parts , SLI i'll think after i see how the 580GTX Works in-game.
To power your system with a single GTX 580, all you need is a quality 500-550W power supply. That includes the 550W Antec TruePower New.

If you want to go SLI, then yeah: the AX750 would be an excellent choice.

However, try to take it from me: I think you'll be absolutely blown away by your system with just one 580 in it. I know I am (my sig rig).


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As TwoCables said, get a 2 x 4GB ram kit. If you use two sticks of ram, install them into slots #2 & #4 otherwise your PC will probably not boot up. There is some difference between ram speeds, but not much. I think most SB users run 1600 MHz ram, though. I know that from 1600 MHz to 1866 MHz there is some minute difference but beyond that the returns are ever diminishing.

As for the H100, the radiator should fit under the top fans of the Phantom, I know some people have done that before, it should be a pretty simple mod. Try googling it.
This.

I'm seeing way too many Sandy Bridge owners putting their memory in the same slots that we used to use on socket 775, but it's different now. Now we have to put the memory in what used to be the extra slots.

For example: on the MSI Z68A-GD80, the memory must go in the black slots.
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post #24 of 39
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As TwoCables said, get a 2 x 4GB ram kit. If you use two sticks of ram, install them into slots #2 & #4 otherwise your PC will probably not boot up. There is some difference between ram speeds, but not much. I think most SB users run 1600 MHz ram, though. I know that from 1600 MHz to 1866 MHz there is some minute difference but beyond that the returns are ever diminishing.

As for the H100, the radiator should fit under the top fans of the Phantom, I know some people have done that before, it should be a pretty simple mod. Try googling it.
Yeapy ill get a 2x4GB
And thanks about the H100 ill google it
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Those hydro corsair coolers are pretty loud with the stock fans and they mess with the airflow in the case if you use a push-pull fan setup.

You could get a cheaper heatsink that cools better as well such as the Silver Arrow (which I think is better than the noctua nh-d14 since it cools the same but is quieter)...or if you don't want a dual tower heatsink because it is too large for you (it might cover your RAM if you have tall heatspreaders) you could get an ultra 120, venemous x, or archon (they all have pretty much the same cooling performance) The silver arrow is sometimes a degree or two better than these coolers. The ultra 120 is older so you might find it cheaper. The archon is the tallest but isn't as wide as the other 2.
And yes those are from the same company: Thermalright. From many reviews I have decided that those are the very best air coolers.

I would get the 2600k if you think the extra $100 is worth it since eventually more games will use hyperthreading. Unless you prefer to save that money for future upgrades.
Hummm thanks for advices but i think ill stick with the water cooling yet.
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I don't know how much yen you make a month, but if the 2600k is only $40 USD more then I'd say go for it. Here, the cheapest 2600k is at Microcenter & it's exactly $100 more than the 2500k without tax.
 
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Is it worth 40 more Yen for 2MB more of cache and HyperThreading (when you'll never use HyperThreading)? To my surprise, I learned that the 100MHz higher clock over the 2500K doesn't make a difference in overclocking in comparison to the 2500K.
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Well i still dont understand about the PSU thing

At first i choice AX850W , then peoples said is unecessary why is that?Because i'll not use all of those wats or about money or waste of power energy?
Sorry im new about those things.
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post #29 of 39
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Is it worth 40 more Yen for 2MB more of cache and HyperThreading (when you'll never use HyperThreading)? To my surprise, I learned that the 100MHz higher clock over the 2500K doesn't make a difference in overclocking in comparison to the 2500K.
Well i think is it , as i mentioned before money its not big deal
I just wanna build the best computer of the best.
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Well i still dont understand about the PSU thing

At first i choice AX850W , then peoples said is unecessary why is that?Because i'll not use all of those wats or about money or waste of power energy?
Sorry im new about those things.
Basically because you won't use that much power, so there's really no reason to spend that much on it. However, it is modular which is great for cable management. If you decide to SLI two GTX 580's a quality 750w(HX750, AX750 are both modular) should be enough. If you will never SLI, you can get a 550W or so PSU, I heard the KingWin Lazer Platinum is REALLY good, hence it's price.
Edited by N7-OC - 7/31/11 at 8:22pm
 
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