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Haha, well then good, I personally don't like the HAF's, so your sister is more techy then me!
So any objections to my proposed build? My sisters not techy at all, but for something like the case, it's all personal preference .
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Nope, as I said, i think it's a great build, especially for her needs. I'm a little jealous, i'd love to try out those APU's, I wish I had someone needing an effective internet computer right now!
     
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Nope, as I said, i think it's a great build, especially for her needs. I'm a little jealous, i'd love to try out those APU's, I wish I had someone needing an effective internet computer right now!
Honestly, I'm jealous too . But I'll have tons of fun building this for my little sister and she deserves it after 4 years of hard work in High School to get into a good University. Thanks for the help everyone and I'll be sure to construct a build log when we do get it all put together around the first week of September.
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post #54 of 60
Aw, you did not like my suggestion.
It would have been quiet, and the size of a book so it would look actually rather nice in her room.

I really suggest getting a larger harddrive, becuse the cost is essentially the same. If she will discover the magic of torrents and whatnot, she will want a large harddrive. You can also use it to store backups of family pictures and whatnot. Maybe a file server if she has a high speed connection ...

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58...acture=Seagate
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49...D&promoid=1310 <-- oh wow, 15 CAD more gets you a 2TB hdd, woh.


Well, good luck with your build!
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Lets not forget to add 80 bucks for windows 7 everyone... Newegg has it currently for 79.99 with a promo code.
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post #56 of 60
I still like the existing laptop to TV idea. ive seen some misinformed people figure out 15pin VGA connectors before. even how to press Fn + Displaymode keycombo.

a second computer in my opinion would be a waste.
post #57 of 60
The build above is decent for the cost, but based on your sister's needs, I find it to be a little overkill in some places - even if this isn't supposed to be the cheapest PC possible.
Specifically:
Case/PSU - again I am sticking to my recommendation of getting her a small form factor case and PSU. Since it is very unlikely she will ever take discrete graphics or other such expansion, why not save some space on the desk? The included DM-317 PSU will also power up an AMD APU rig just fine, due to the excellent low power consumption; as it has fewer cables than the standard PSU, cables won't be awfully hard to manage (I've tried it on the DM-317 itself and its sister case the Antec Minuet, it's not hard at all). In case the PSU quality worries you (though I'm honest, the modest 275W unit included in the DM-317 is enough even if it isn't the most efficient/best you can get), you can buy an Antec MT-352 (350W 80+ power supply for Antec Minuet and similar cases - it should fit the DM-317) for $39.55 after price match. Besides, if you ever have to take the PC somewhere, it'll be small enough so that she can carry it, instead of you having to do the back breaking labour yourself
Hard drive - There are 1TB drives for $10 cheaper than that. Not as fast, but if it's worth it to your sis, def get her the 1TB drive. Or you can get a WD 750GB Black drive on the weekend specials (deal expires after today!) for $50, again $10 less but with much better value and similar speed.
Motherboard - Don't you think that's a bit high end for her needs? I'd expect you maybe to undervolt the CPU for her, but a motherboard designed for overclocking won't do you anything except provide redundant VRM phases and give you useless features for a premium.
Platform - The AMD Athlon II x3 + 785G chipset still does perfectly suit your sister's needs. The Athlon II x3 should be as fast as 3 cores of that Llano APU, running at 3Ghz. She doesn't game so the 785G/HD 4200 is more than enough - it is fully capable of playing HD video on YouTube, and can even be easily taken to 750-800Mhz from 500Mhz if you find a graphics boost really necessary. But what's really good about taking on the AM3 platform is the cost. Versus $200 plus for an APU, this only costs $100 + $5.50 for a cooler for the OEM chip. The money saved can be put towards a solid state drive so your lil sis can enjoy a really fast boot!
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/1/11 at 1:53pm
post #58 of 60
The APU build you listed is perfect (same with XD's). One complaint though, for BOTH of you. Get DDR3-1866 or 2133, if you intend to use the on chip graphics. It's been shown that faster RAM scales linearly with GPU speed. So get the fastest budget RAM you can (or at least RAM that will clock well).
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The APU build you listed is perfect (same with XD's). One complaint though, for BOTH of you. Get DDR3-1866 or 2133, if you intend to use the on chip graphics. It's been shown that faster RAM scales linearly with GPU speed. So get the fastest budget RAM you can (or at least RAM that will clock well).
Are you referring to me or the OP?

The motherboard I listed does not support such high speed RAM if I remember correctly. And I agree with many of the above posts, a A8 is far too much power for her, you can get better for cheaper because she does not need so much oomph.
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post #60 of 60
I did a build with a z68 mATX board a few weeks ago around $500 it worked great. Sandy Bridge is so much faster.
 
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