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Hey guys, I'm about to start buying parts for my proposed build, and I'm worried about my motherboard. Ideally, I'd buy an M5A97 and be happy, but I have a pretty strict budget. So, are there any AMD mobo's for around 60 bucks that work well? I don't expect AM3+ support, or anything extravagant, it's just a placeholder until I get the money to do everything I want. I was looking at this:

ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

Also, a couple of noob questions: What's the difference between PCI Express 2.0 16x and 4x? Would I still be able to SLI with one card on each of those, and if so would I lose performance vs. 2 x16?

And when a mobo's memory standard has something like, "1600 (OC)", does that simply mean that I have to make a tweak for the motherboard to take advantage of 1600 ram?

PS: If it's not worth it to have a cheap motherboard, I'll just jump for a pricier one, but only if I really have to. So please see if you can find a good one.

Thanks for your help!
Edited by AllyOmega - 7/31/11 at 8:29pm
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And when a mobo's memory standard has something like, "1600 (OC)", does that simply mean that I have to make a tweak for the motherboard to take advantage of 1600 ram
It means that it supports DDR3 1333Mhz but you can go higher as you overclock.
It won't automatically set the RAM to 1600Mhz.

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What's the difference between PCI Express 2.0 16x and 4x? Would I still be able to SLI with one card on each of those, and if so would I lose performance vs. 2 x16?
It would be possible to SLI at those speeds but you might experience a slight performance decrease.
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good price but it doesn't support sata 3 so you would have to put up with a 3.0 gbps hdd. also, i wouldn't bother running two graphics cards on this since one of the pcie 2.0 sockets only runs at x4 (make sure you put your graphics card in the x16 socket). buy yourself some 1333 mhz ddr3 ram @ 1.5v too.

here's the spec on the manufacturer's webby

if you can put up with sata 2 then go for it, $60 aint bad for that mobo.
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good price but it doesn't support sata 3 so you would have to put up with a 3.0 gbps hdd. also, i wouldn't bother running two graphics cards on this since one of the pcie 2.0 sockets only runs at x4 (make sure you put your graphics card in the x16 socket). buy yourself some 1333 mhz ddr3 ram @ 1.5v too.

here's the spec on the manufacturer's webby

if you can put up with sata 2 then go for it, $60 aint bad for that mobo.
Yeah, I wasn't really planning on SLI, I was just asking to know. So, I wouldn't be able to use 1600 mhz ram effectively on this board?
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your motherboard can use 1600mhz ddr3 but it will run at 1333mhz, to make use of the full 1600mhz you have to overclock the fsb on your motherboard and make sure your cpu has the same fsb (or higher). the performance increase isnt anything major and you can save money getting the 1333mhz ddr3.
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your motherboard can use 1600mhz ddr3 but it will run at 1333mhz, to make use of the full 1600mhz you have to overclock the fsb on your motherboard and make sure your cpu has the same fsb (or higher). the performance increase isnt anything major and you can save money getting the 1333mhz ddr3.
Thanks, but memory is so cheap that I'd only end up saving a few bucks. I think I'll stick with the 1600 mhz ram I have in my newegg wishlist. Plus, I'd like to get a better mobo in the near future to take advantage of the ram (although if I do get this mobo I'd attempt to get the ram to 1600 mhz). From what I've been told in this thread, I may just spend the extra 40 bucks and get an m5a97. Do you guys think I should just jump for that?
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if you are willing to spend more cash then go for it, m5a97 supports sata 3 and 1600mhz without oc.
Edited by pirate_ - 8/1/11 at 6:05am
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Go with the M5A97 - it won't be a "placeholder", it will be the real deal and you will be able to run any CPU up to and including a Bulldozer. Why are you going with an Nvidea card? If you are going AMD- go all the way and get an ATI GPU as well. No sense in trying to pound square pegs into round holes.
    
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Go with the M5A97 - it won't be a "placeholder", it will be the real deal and you will be able to run any CPU up to and including a Bulldozer. Why are you going with an Nvidea card? If you are going AMD- go all the way and get an ATI GPU as well. No sense in trying to pound square pegs into round holes.
From what I've heard, there's no problems with AMD CPU's and Nvidia GPU's. The 460 is the best bang for my buck right now. Plus, I'm not a big fan of ATI cards, due to the driver and tesselation problems. I'd be willing to buy one later on(They do a lot well), but this is going to be the first PC I've built for myself and I want it to be a smooth ride. However, I am looking at a used ATI card, so we'll see.
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I am not aware of any driver or tesselation problems when using AMD/ATI together. These types of problems are generally the result of trying to mix hardware platform types......If you are truly looking for a "smooth ride", then why try to mix platforms? This is just asking for problems.
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