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So I cleaned my radiator + GPU and ended up removing a LOT of dust! So I felt good, turned on my PC (win 7 - my rig below) and it turned on normally!!! I was so excited I was finally on my computer, I even made a post here... Next thing that happens is: My computer freezes... literally the screen is frozen.. I can't move the cursor.. can't ctrl+alt+dlt.. it's literally frozen. Now it keeps happening, and MOST of the time I can not get my peripherals (MONITOR + keyboard/mouse) to get power. I think I'm hearing my SSD working hard when the freezing happens, but I'm not sure if it's that or if it's my PSU.. or both.

Help me, please frown.gif

Thanks in advance!


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It's been awhile since I've seen this message, and the only time I've seen it is when I was learning how to overclock. Recently, my overclock (that has been stable for over six months) has been crashing my computer. I always get the "Overclock is unstable" error, and never bothered to change my settings (I'm sure the heat and accumulated dust has something to do with it).

Now, these are my issues:
BOOTMGR is missing
I use SSD (one out of two for OS) & a HDD for only storage (I removed the backup OS)

I haven't fiddled around in my BIOS for a long time, so I tried messing around with the settings that had to do with booting up my computer. I need to find out if my OS was actually wiped out (Due to bad OC) or if I can recover it using the proper BIOS settings.

I'm thinking since I have two SSDs, and I'm in the Booot Device Priority I only see 1st 2nd and 3rd.... but I only see one SATA: 3M-INTEL SSDS (so it's plural), and it still gives me the BOOTMGR is missing error (black screen).

Am I doing something wrong here? Or did I just lose my information on my SSD?

Any recommendations?
Edited by xquisit - 10/5/11 at 10:33pm
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post #2 of 68
It may still see some remnant OS files on your other drive. Unplug all drives but your SSD (os drive) then boot up. If it boots, you can plug the other one in after and the BIOS should then know which one is the OS drive.

Try that first, then we can try something else.
post #3 of 68
Before I get into it, I need to strongly recommend that you do this from now on every single time Windows is shut down improperly:
  1. When you're finished loading Windows for the first time after the improper shut down occurred, choose Restart.
  2. Allow Windows to restart completely.
  3. At this point, you are free to reboot into the BIOS

If you don't do this every single time, then you will end up with this message again (or one that is similar). I am speaking from experience. wink.gif You see, if Windows is shut down improperly too many times without any healthy restarts in between, then it gets more and more corrupted. Pretty soon, critical files get severely corrupted and then you're screwed.



Anyway, here is a way we might be able to fix this:
  1. Boot to the Windows 7 DVD
  2. When you see this, click "Repair your computer"
  3. You'll see a little window named "System Recovery Options" appear which searches for Windows installations.
  4. When it finishes, you will see a dialog box. Select "Use recovery tools that can help fix problems starting Windows. Select an operating system to repair."
  5. Click Next.
  6. Click "Command Prompt"
  7. Type bootrec /fixmbr and press Enter (it means "fix master boot record")
  8. Type bootrec /fixboot and press Enter
  9. Type exit and press Enter
  10. Click Restart


If this doesn't work, then I don't know what else can be done (although, I believe someone else might).
Edited by TwoCables - 7/31/11 at 8:41pm
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post #4 of 68
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Originally Posted by K3VL4R;14419631 
It may still see some remnant OS files on your other drive. Unplug all drives but your SSD (os drive) then boot up. If it boots, you can plug the other one in after and the BIOS should then know which one is the OS drive.

Try that first, then we can try something else.

I'll try each SSD, because I don't know which one is holding the SSD. I'll report back within two or three minutes.

EDIT: NO LUCK!

One of the SSDs: I got a message on a black screen saying Install or Instert media and press any key

With the other SSD: I got the black screen message BOOTMGR is missing frown.gif

I guess I'll try my HDD, but I'm 99.99999% I removed my OS (still going to try, but at this point I need some recommendations)
Edited by xquisit - 7/31/11 at 8:46pm
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post #5 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by xquisit;14419691 
I'll try each SSD, because I don't know which one is holding the SSD. I'll report back within two or three minutes.
I predict that you will still see "BOOTMGR is missing".
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post #6 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables;14419687 
Before I get into it, I need to strongly recommend that you do this from now on every single time Windows is shut down improperly:
  1. When you're finished loading Windows for the first time after the improper shut down occurred, choose Restart.
  2. Allow Windows to restart completely.
  3. At this point, you are free to reboot into the BIOS

If you don't do this every single time, then you will end up with this message again (or one that is similar). I am speaking from experience. wink.gif You see, if Windows is shut down improperly too many times without any healthy restarts in between, then it gets more and more corrupted. Pretty soon, critical files get severely corrupted and then you're screwed.



Anyway, here is a way we might be able to fix this:
  1. Boot to the Windows 7 DVD
  2. When you see this, click "Repair your computer"
  3. You'll see a little window named "System Recovery Options" appear which searches for Windows installations.
  4. When it finishes, you will see a dialog box. Select "Use recovery tools that can help fix problems starting Windows. Select an operating system to repair."
  5. Click Next.
  6. Click "Command Prompt"
  7. Type bootrec /fixmbr and press Enter (it means "fix master boot record")
  8. Type bootrec /fixboot and press Enter
  9. Type exit and press Enter
  10. Click Restart


If this doesn't work, then I don't know what else can be done (although, I believe someone else might).


I'm so glad you chimed in, and I'm thankful for the tips/advice!

I'm sad to say, I have no idea where I placed my windows 7 OS. It looks like I'm screwed this time.... I have no friend with a DVD Burner in order to acquire an OS (let's not get into it here).. In other words, it's very likely I need to get a new OS (I don't think BIOS options have any chance of reviving my OS).
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post #7 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables;14419746 
I predict that you will still see "BOOTMGR is missing".

I just wanted to start with the easy things first, since OP did not mention booting the OS drive alone.
post #8 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by xquisit;14419779 
I'm so glad you chimed in, and I'm thankful for the tips/advice!

I'm sad to say, I have no idea where I placed my windows 7 OS. It looks like I'm screwed this time.... I have no friend with a DVD Burner in order to acquire an OS (let's not get into it here).. In other words, it's very likely I need to get a new OS (I don't think BIOS options have any chance of reviving my OS).
Oh damn!

Argh! There has to be some way to make a bootable USB flash drive with bootrec.exe on it. Dah! I'm stuck!
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Oh wait a minute! I think I'm on to something here!

http://mintywhite.com/windows-7/7maintenance/windows-wont-load-system-repair-disc-fix-pc/

I'm still analyzing this to see if it's what we want!
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post #10 of 68
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables;14419808 
Oh damn!

Argh! There has to be some way to make a bootable USB flash drive with bootrec.exe on it. Dah! I'm stuck!

At this point, I'm just glad to have you guys here to help me (and thankful you both responded so quickly).

I have no idea what I'm going to do, and I'm just sad that I never took care of the problem. I wasn't sure what I was suppose to do, but I suppose it was lower my clocks + voltages & check for stability.
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