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Originally Posted by Mygaffer;14421646 
they are going to be consumer unfriendly and require you to log into Battle.net even for single player. I know I miss out on some great games this way but I refuse to support that kind of thing. I refuse to buy any Ubisoft games b/c of their use of the always on Internet connection DRM and I will refuse to buy any game from any publisher that requires the same thing. I'd much rather support them than a company who cuts a feature like LAN play for paying customers in order to make the game harder to pirate for their non-paying customers. Backwards priorities right there.

EXACTLY

I was excited for this title, now I will not be playing it at all it looks like.

I hope you all do the same, so we can get a REAL Diablo 4
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Originally Posted by IgorDJ;14425978 
Why dont ALL of you read the whole thing, the AUCTION HOUSE is player driven. Meaning blizzard doesnt get any money out of it, only unless you decide you want real money for what you found in game. Because paypal charges a fee for sellers, and BLIZZARD will most likely be using PAYPAL as the 3rd party you will have to pay a small flat flee (probs 1$) but this flat flee doesnt increase if what you sold is 500$ or 1000$ or 1$. Its the same fee for every price...

First of all that's a huge assumption so I'll start with my own, however, I'll back them up with logical reasoning.
Blizzard is not going to use paypal. Why do I assume this? Because they don't use it for any transactions done through WoW or otherwise. It's all mediated on their website. It wouldn't make sense for them to do that since like you said, with paypal they can't make money off of it. Having it directly go through activision-blizzard takes out the middle man. Which leads me to my second point. Activision currently doesn't make any money off of CoD players on xbox live. What did bobby koteck suggest?
http://www.destructoid.com/bobby-kotick-not-a-fan-of-xbox-live-178236.phtml
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We don’t really participate financially in that income stream. We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it’s not our network.
He goes on to state...
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I would have Call of Duty be an online subscription service tomorrow. When you think about what the audience’s interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities, I would love to see us have an online Call of Duty world. I think our players would just have so much of a more compelling experience.

That's right! He doesn't like microsoft getting all the dough off of his game he made with is blood, sweat, and tears he wants in on that nice pile of money too.
Now given this, why would Bobby Kitick allow a third party to mediate a possible source of financial revenue, that Activision-blizzard could easily benefit from? It really doesn't make sense from a business perspective, they are a business first and foremost, and any good business tries to accrue wealth and expand its interests.

Also this,
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A nominal fixed transaction fee will be deducted from the seller for each item listed in the auction house. This fee consists of a fixed charge to list the item, which is assessed whether or not the item is successfully sold, and an additional fixed charge that is assessed only if the item is sold.

Of course this isn't to say their are other reasons behind doing this... regulating duping, making it safer, curbing farming, etc... but those are all minor concerns compared to the potential financial gain from this.

But that's just my two cents....
Edited by xidious - 8/1/11 at 12:01pm
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post #143 of 234
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Originally Posted by DizturbedOne;14426215 
EXACTLY

I was excited for this title, now I will not be playing it at all it looks like.

I hope you all do the same, so we can get a REAL Diablo 4

If no one plays the game it will not be profitable. If it is not profitable Diablo 4 will not be made. At that point we all lose.
post #144 of 234
Learn from their mistakes inspiring game developers. Greed is flowing through their veins like crazy, don't allow yourself to be consumed by their wicked ways. Smoke and mirrors, they will just conjure that stuff instantly to sell to make it seem like it's player driven. Again a very underhanded thing to do towards their fans.
Taken from PCGAMER
Blizzard’s cut


It will cost a small flat rate to list an item on the auction house, and Blizzard will take another flat rate fee when the sale is completed. Both figures will be in real money, but they’re not proportional to the value of the item. Blizzard say they wanted to stay away from taking a percentage cut.

“Percentages really incentivise us to manipulate the system,” says lead designer Jay Wilson, “and we don’t even want the incentive to do that, much less actually doing it.”

Despite the flat fees they take, Blizzard don’t expect it to be a money spinner for them. “We expect it’ll break even,” lead designer Jay Wilson says.

“We talked about this as a service we wanted to provide players, and not primarily as a financial model… we don’t know if it will make us money. It would be nice if it did, but as long as we don’t lose money, that’s really what we care about: that we provide the players with a great experience that doesn’t put us out of business.”

I asked if they’d still do it even if they couldn’t take a cut of the sales. “Absolutely,” says Jay.


Expect it to break even... What does that even mean? They are being real conniving.

I found out long ago that some shady behavior was going on in WoW, and they are slowing trying to be more forward with their players by allowing it to be sold through them. But they are still trying to pull a fast one on you, this is a game nothing more. Should this be deemed as gambling then?
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The way I see it, is that Blizvision or Actizard or however you call them is just implementing, what seems to be inevitable = economy within an economy. Blizzcon 10´just showed that they are taking whatever measures to "avoid" or just fight off illegal 3rd party tradings. Auction House seems to fulfil the role of safe economy by raplacing unsecure transactions with costly player driven marketplace. Security has its price I guess. Most of these economical changes ingame seem reasonably argumented by Blizz, but help them god if they start charging us monthly fees for online gameplay. I may not fully comprehend the entire economical balance of these new features but some of them are quite welcome and I don't mind, as long as I have choice in that matter to keep my wallet away from fantasy world that´s created by corporate moneymilkers. (Other than buying the game itself ofcourse)
post #146 of 234
People blow this out of proportion. It would happen either way, just like it does with Diablo 2.
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Well, from my perspective they aren't going to take the risk for charging a monthly rate for a non-mmorpg. They're experimenting with it first in an FPS with CoD http://www.geek.com/articles/games/activision-confirms-next-cod-will-have-premium-online-features-20110510/

The transactions from the AH will take the place of a subscription fee (as a source of revenue for blizzard). Also, they won't be making all their money from top tier items sold on the AH since it's all a flat rate according to the article. More likely, from smaller more common items you need to grind for like crafting components. As a thought, we don't know the details yet, but with the new monetized AH creating more grinds for this game would really benefit activision-blizzard financially due to what I mentioned.
Also, that rep stating they'll be lucky to break even is utter BS and an obvious PR ploy to not look greedy.
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YALL NEED TO VISIT THIS SITE
http://www.diablofans.com/topic/26249-diablo-3-press-event-visit/

He has all the questions and answers from the press

Please stop assuming stuff. Read this and not some random sit that is biased
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People blow this out of proportion. It would happen either way, just like it does with Diablo 2.
Exactly.

People need to read your post 10000000000 times before posting in this thread.

Selling items for real money in D2 was a HUGE market, rivaling that of gold sellers in WoW. There were a decent amount of sites selling items, and even popular botting forums had their own market.

This is nothing new. Blizzard just wants a piece of the pie. Who blames them? It's their game and they weren't making any money off of D2 after a box was sold.

In WoW it's different since people already pay a monthly fee and they charge for pets and other services, but a game like diablo can't really do that. So what's the next option? Get a piece of the third-party item selling market. Make it mainstream and make it painless for legit players to make money off their items without dealing with outside scams/sites.
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Well when push comes to shove, You don't really have to use the auction room if you don't want to. But, now I wonder if some of those really unique Items in the game are going to be as scarce, or is everyone going to be running around with be Best stuff available because one can just buy everything as long as there character is lvl up?
    
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