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So what happens when you get a massive high end air cooler, and find out that half your RAM slots are no longer usable?
95% of the people dont need more then 8GB so there, also low profile RAM.
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95% of the people dont need more then 8GB so there, also low profile RAM.
Not everyone's RAM setup is 2x4GB. And even that isn't possible with some high end air cooler/motherboard combos. Low profile is an option though.
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Not everyone's RAM setup is 2x4GB. And even that isn't possible with some high end air cooler/motherboard combos. Low profile is an option though.
The thing is that you can get the Noctua and stick with it or keep upgrading every time to Corsair coolers and still only come close. A lot of H50 users have gotten a H70 or now a H80/H100. All these upgrades cost money.
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So what happens when you get a massive high end air cooler, and find out that half your RAM slots are no longer usable?
The RAM clearance issue with the D14 is seriously blown out of proportion.

Moderately tall DIMMs like the G.Skill Ripjaws will clear without any issues. Even the tallest DIMMs, like G.Skill Pi Black, will clear with the front fan mounted slightly higher than usual.

G.Skill Pi Black with the D14 in an X58 board: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...7&postcount=15

This is what the heatspreader on the Pi Black looks like:




DIMMs with moderately tall heatspreaders (like G.SKill Ripjaws) are absolutely no problem with the D14. Here's a D14 with 4 sticks of Ripjaws. Notice that even if the heatspreaders were taller, the fan could be moved up a bit to accommodate them:


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The thing is that you can get the Noctua and stick with it or keep upgrading every time to Corsair coolers and still only come close. A lot of H50 users have gotten a H70 or now a H80/H100. All these upgrades cost money.
Coming close is fine. A couple of degrees isn't going to make or break an OC/rig, since both will keep an OC'd CPU well below "dangerous" temps. Hell I've got my H80 on the balanced setting with my i5 2500k OC'd to 4.6GHz, and I'm like ten degrees under Intel's conservative 72C max 24/7 temp suggestion. Not sure what its like for Phenom II's or other CPUs though.
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And to clarify, I meant large air coolers in general. I see the Noctua is tall enough to avoid RAM clearance issues. My old Zalman cooler's installation clip used to jut out over my fourth RAM slot, so I had to go from 2x1GB to 2x4GB since I couldn't add another dual channel kit. Situations like this can be avoided with research though - I just assumed I'd be fine at the time
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They are so close that I am glad I don't have a poop brown setup in my case.
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The H80 actually fares pretty well here, especially considering it wasn't maxed out thermally at the heat loads provided.

Here's a quote from the review:

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A test I have started to unofficially run is to bump the vcore up to 1.4 and the clock speed of the 920 up to a 210 bclock for a nice 4.2GHz clock speed. This test puts an even greater load on the cooling subsystem and Prime 95 will error out if the temperatures reach higher than the mid 70s degrees Celsius on this CPU. Much like the H70, the H80 delivered temperatures in the middle 70s degrees Celsius with the voltage and clock speed bumped up allowing a 3-hour pass of Prime 95 at 4.2GHz running in "Performance" mode. This load is what it took to get the most out of the fans and pump. I say this because at the lower overclock of 3.3GHz, the maximum airflow I could get measured with my Kestral 4100 was a 64 CFM average out of the assembly. When run at a higher vcore and clock speed, the CPU put out enough thermal load to cause the pump assembly to finally ramp up the fan speeds to the 2600rpm range, delivering an 88 CFM average, close to the 92 CFM rating on the fans.
Basically, in his review, the H80 fans were probably running around 1800-2000 RPM based on the coolant temp instead of the 2600 RPM max. He probably got them to max in his "unofficial" test, but otherwise this was right around the same RPM as the H70 fans.

The H80 wasn't designed to beat the snot out of the Noctua NH-D14 in every situation. It was designed to offer a few more benefits aside from just raw performance, including mounting weight on the CPU socket, portability, ability to work around your CPU socket and swap out other components without removing your heatsink, built-in fan control profiles, etc.

To be honest, if you'd rather have a Noctua NH-D14, then by all means, I won't begrudge you. The entire point of the Hydro series is to give people another option. And a lot of people want that option. The Hydro series has been hugely successful for us, as evidenced by every major competitor announcing their own version of it this year. Antec, Cooler Master, Thermaltake, Scythe - everyone is jumping into this market because a lot of people want the product.

This competition is great for you guys - it forces everyone to make better, cheaper products every year. The H80 costs exactly the same as last year's H70, and has better fans, a built-in fan controller, and significantly better performance at the same noise levels, with the potential to go to even better levels of performance at higher noise levels.
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including mounting weight on the CPU socket
What do you mean by this? Are you implying that air coolers like the NH-D14 and Silver damage the cpu socket with their weight? Because if you are then you lose some credibility. I know you have to promote your product but using rubbish like that is laughable.
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Basically, in his review, the H80 fans were probably running around 1800-2000 RPM based on the coolant temp instead of the 2600 RPM max. He probably got them to max in his "unofficial" test, but otherwise this was right around the same RPM as the H70 fans.
You beat me to it, CorsairGeorge. I think reviewers ought to make sure the fans and pump are maxed out for their testing. It's going to suck if the results from every other review are the product of different pump and fan speeds. Nobody takes one review as the gospel unless they are a fool. Instead, most people draw conclusions based on several different reviews.
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