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Not. A. BOTTLENECK.

Didn't you realize it from your last thread? Do I need to post that chart again?
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post #12 of 28
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@philhalo66 - How do you have 6000 posts here, and not understand what your system is doing? Not trying to troll, or be a tool, i just don't understand that?

Why in gods name are you using such a POS graphics card? That thing is ancient, and tbh i am stunned it can run a playable BC2 client. Upgrade? Your GPU is a huge bottleneck.
Uh, no. It may be a little old, but it's not a "POS". It still plays a lot of todays games at decent settings.

OP, if your FPS dropped out of nowhere, it probably means your GPU or CPU is unstable. If could also be that your GPU is throttling because it's unstable or your temperature is way too high. I would check on both for instabilities.
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@philhalo66 - How do you have 6000 posts here, and not understand what your system is doing? Not trying to troll, or be a tool, i just don't understand that?

Why in gods name are you using such a POS graphics card? That thing is ancient, and tbh i am stunned it can run a playable BC2 client. Upgrade? Your GPU is a huge bottleneck.
Like Yugimt said, no. A 8800 is still a good decent card. Not everyone has the money for a 6970 or a 580. It's not a bottleneck either.
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How is it not a bottleneck when his GPU usage drops when he hits 100% CPU usage?

Definitely a CPU bottleneck at his current settings.
    
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Might be a background process stealing CPU cycles.
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So a background program is slowing down a quad core Phenom II with 6MB of L3? Those extreme anti-virus program man!

Maybe his CPU is just slow as dirt at 2.8ghz and he's using a low-res monitor.
    
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There is 2 types of bottlenecks, CPU bottleneck from GPU and CPU bottleneck from the game. You are getting bottlenecked from the game in some part but not so much. To 90fps i presume you are running graphics on low so you are showing the weak side of the CPU. If you were to Max out the game 8800GT would get far less fps then X4. Its the same as running X4 + HD 5870 @ High vs X4 + 8800GT @ low. Both get same fps and both are limited by CPU the same way just that one looks better then the other.
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post #18 of 28
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How is it not a bottleneck when his GPU usage drops when he hits 100% CPU usage?

Definitely a CPU bottleneck at his current settings.
He said most of the time GPU is at 97-99% and randomly it drops for a short period.

If you GPU is mostly 97-99% that would lead one to believe the sudden drop out of nowhere is cause by another issue not a CPU bottleneck.

I wouldnt call it a true CPU bottleneck unless the GPU is ALWAYS less then 99% and CPU is stuck at 100%
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post #19 of 28
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So a background program is slowing down a quad core Phenom II with 6MB of L3? Those extreme anti-virus program man!
It's not impossible considering he said it was a (random?) low spike, and it doesn't have to be an anti-virus. So you can stop the sarcasm; you're not doing the OP nor yourself any favors. And if his sig is accurate, he only has 2GB of system RAM. That may also be the culprit, especially with Windows Vista.
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How is it not a bottleneck when his GPU usage drops when he hits 100% CPU usage?

Definitely a CPU bottleneck at his current settings.
It's not in this case. You should read what the OP says, not just skim through. A triple core Phenom II at 3ghz will not bottleneck a 8800 in any game. It wouldn't even bottleneck a 6870.

I ran my 5770(Which is much more powerful than a 8800) on my Athlon I DUAL CORE 5600+ 2.9ghz, and I did not get bottlenecked in any games, not even BC2.
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