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Originally Posted by Paratrooper1n0;14426259 
Games go in increments of 30Hz or FPS, movies and TV are stuck at 24FPS. 120Hz = 120FPS with no screen tearing (V-sync). And smoother imaging when watching films or TV.
So if you have a good enough Video card and a 480Hz TV, you can run 480FPS with no screen tearing.


I thought TVs used frame interlacing, as in like there is a processor on the TV which creates frames to fill in the gaps? There's a difference between true 120Hz and TV 120Hz.
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Yes there is a big difference especially if your computer can handle it... As screens get bigger, I think it would be more of a noticable difference as it's all based on how SMOOTH an image is... Even things such as windows scrolling, to fast paced FPS will definitely be the biggest difference.

Be careful because most people confuse actual 120hz input compared to '120hz ready or simulated' meaning that interpolated frames (artificials frames inbetween the real frames) are added which causes artifacts and not look as good... Again this is based on the TV or monitor itself...
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post #13 of 48
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Originally Posted by wtRiViaL;14426376 
I thought TVs used frame interlacing, as in like there is a processor on the TV which creates frames to fill in the gaps? There's a difference between true 120Hz and TV 120Hz.

Sony and Samsung have an advanced auto motion plus processor, but still only accept 60hz... and like stated above, is done best at divisions of 24...
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post #14 of 48
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Originally Posted by wtRiViaL;14426376 
I thought TVs used frame interlacing, as in like there is a processor on the TV which creates frames to fill in the gaps? There's a difference between true 120Hz and TV 120Hz.

Hmm, never heard of "TV 120Hz" as I have seen much improvement in smoothness on 120Hz LCD TV's/monitors I have watched on. I remember watching on TV or YouTube about the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz. Hell I want to get a 240Hz TV if I can. And I hope PC monitors with 120Hz become more mainstream.
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Prepare for a million uneducated replies in this thread.

Humans have been comfirmed to see well into the 220FPS area, but I hold the position we can see much higher.


If you really think you can't see more than 60FPS, move your cursor around on your desktop. That is not a smooth trail. It will look like this.

crazy_mouse_windows_cursor.png

If you weren't able to see more, it would be a smooth trail instead of a laggy one like that. It also happens on 220hz CRTs too. I recently went out to test it on one.
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post #16 of 48
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Originally Posted by Paratrooper1n0;14426259 
Games go in increments of 30Hz or FPS, movies and TV are stuck at 24FPS. 120Hz = 120FPS with no screen tearing (V-sync). And smoother imaging when watching films or TV.
So if you have a good enough Video card and a 480Hz TV, you can run 480FPS with no screen tearing.

TVs do NOT work the same as monitors when talking about refresh rates.

The signal you get from your satellite or cable provider is 60Hz all the time. What higher frequency TVs do is use circuitry to add extra frames to make things look smoother. But if you plug in a cable from your computer, the most you'll be able to send to a TV is 60Hz, regardless of the claims of the manufacturer.

Monitors rated for 120Hz receive twice the number of signals per second than a 60Hz monitor, which is why others are saying you need a fast video card. /offtopic

So if you're planning on playing a fast moving game like an FPS, you may notice a difference, otherwise, get the monitor that looks best to you.
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post #17 of 48
120HZ TVs have to do frame interpolation because the signals they use don't provide 120FPS. 120HZ monitors on the other hand, do get 120HZ signals from your PC.

Even if your PC can't get 120FPS+ in games, I'd still recommend one for desktop use. Moving windows/working is so much more fluid. Even following the cursor is a lot smoother tongue.gif
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post #18 of 48
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Originally Posted by De-Zant;14426473 
Prepare for a million uneducated replies in this thread.

Humans have been comfirmed to see well into the 220FPS area, but I hold the position we can see much higher.


If you really think you can't see more than 60FPS, move your cursor around on your desktop. That is not a smooth trail. It will look like this.

crazy_mouse_windows_cursor.png

If you weren't able to see more, it would be a smooth trail instead of a laggy one like that. It also happens on 220hz CRTs too. I recently went out to test it on one.

I was waiting for your response... wink.gif
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post #19 of 48
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Originally Posted by De-Zant;14426473 
Prepare for a million uneducated replies in this thread.

Humans have been comfirmed to see well into the 220FPS area, but I hold the position we can see much higher.


If you really think you can't see more than 60FPS, move your cursor around on your desktop. That is not a smooth trail. It will look like this.

crazy_mouse_windows_cursor.png

If you weren't able to see more, it would be a smooth trail instead of a laggy one like that. It also happens on 220hz CRTs too. I recently went out to test it on one.

This. smile.gif +1
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