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Originally Posted by SeanPoe;14426980 
That has nothing to do with the monitors refresh rate. It's just saying that for a game to run at a constant 120fps at 1920x1080 it's more taxing on the GPU than the other resolution at a constant 60fps.

Then they need to edit that... because it makes no mention of FPS, nor vsync for that matter, anywhere in that paragraph. It only mentions Hz, which is the monitors refresh rate.
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Your GPU is going to put out whatever framerates it can regardless of monitor resolution or refresh rate. All that is saying is to get the "true" potential of 120hz your are going to need an average frame rate of around 120 fps, or double what you would need on a standard lcd.

However 120hz displays still take advantage of under 120 fps. So lets say your average framerate in BC2 is 85 fps and you buy a 120hz monitor, well now you are actually going to see the 85 fps and game play is going to be a whole lot smoother over a standard lcd. Note your GPU is not working any harder at, its simply doing the same rates it always did and now your monitor is actually capable of displaying those extra frames.

But to get 100% of your moneys worth out of a 120hz display your going to want to run it up near 120 fps, which basically requires 2x the GPU power vs standard 60hz displays. Your aren't taxing your current GPU anymore than normal but your going to need a 2nd GPU to render the additional frames wanted.

single pretend GPU
85fps @ 60hz = 60fps max
85fps @ 120hz = 85fps

Dual pretend GPU's
125fps @60hz = 60fps max
125fos @120hz = 120fps max


So 120hz displays do not draw more gpu power but in order to theoretically use them to their full advantage you are going to need double the GPU power at the same resolution.
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Originally Posted by Phantom_Dave;14426901 
Well, wait a minute... What do you gather from this?

That is discussing different resolutions. 2560x1600 @60Hz vs 1920x1080@120Hz.
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In other words, it’s more taxing on a GPU to display 1920x1080 @120hz than 2560x1600 at 60hz.


@OP, 120FPS is extremely nice for FPS games. thumb.gif
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I apologize but if you cant notice the difference, you have got medical problems. It is night and day!
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Originally Posted by DefiedV;14428635 
Your GPU is going to put out whatever framerates it can regardless of monitor resolution or refresh rate. All that is saying is to get the "true" potential of 120hz your are going to need an average frame rate of around 120 fps, or double what you would need on a standard lcd.

However 120hz displays still take advantage of under 120 fps. So lets say your average framerate in BC2 is 85 fps and you buy a 120hz monitor, well now you are actually going to see the 85 fps and game play is going to be a whole lot smoother over a standard lcd. Note your GPU is not working any harder at, its simply doing the same rates it always did and now your monitor is actually capable of displaying those extra frames.

But to get 100% of your moneys worth out of a 120hz display your going to want to run it up near 120 fps, which basically requires 2x the GPU power vs standard 60hz displays. Your aren't taxing your current GPU anymore than normal but your going to need a 2nd GPU to render the additional frames wanted.

single pretend GPU
85fps @ 60hz = 60fps max
85fps @ 120hz = 85fps

Dual pretend GPU's
125fps @60hz = 60fps max
125fos @120hz = 120fps max


So 120hz displays do not draw more gpu power but in order to theoretically use them to their full advantage you are going to need double the GPU power at the same resolution.

I understand the argument, and I already said it makes sense to me. But the "sticky" does not read that way no matter how many different ways you try to spin it. It makes no mention of Hz @ given FPS, it simply states more Hz = more taxing.

Get the sticky changed to read correctly and I'll +rep you.
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Note though, video card solutions that are recommended for 60Hz 2560x1600, will not perform as well at 1920x1080 @120hz due to the amount of information that needs to be processed. In other words, it’s more taxing on a GPU to display 1920x1080 @120hz than 2560x1600 at 60hz. You will need one heck of a powerful GPU solution to see all the benefits of 1920x1080 @120hz. Beyond this resolution, at this high a refresh rate, dual link DVI will no longer have enough bandwidth to broadcast a signal to a monitor. As this point we'll have to move to a more advanced cable method like Display port (seen on a lot of the new HD 5xxx series cards).
http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/662628-60hz-vs-120hz-explained.html

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post #46 of 48
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Originally Posted by DefiedV;14426739 
If your GPU is putting out over 60fps per second you are NOT going to see an fps drop when going to 120hz. What you are going to see if those actual frames rendered on your display. Your GPU is doing the work regardless of your display's refresh rate.

Correct sir
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i love playing league of legends at 120fps vsync, no tearing, everything smooth,

no gpu needed on that game, it's all cpu based primarily
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holy crap big thread hahaha. I thank everyone for the replies. lol
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