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So, I've had my 2500k for almost 2 months now, and I've found that I have a few stable OC's but, BUT the vcore gap is crazy imo.

3.3Ghz - 1.220 (Auto) 28* Idle / 50* Max Load (P95)
3.8Ghz - 1.340 (Auto) 1.290 (Manual) 29* Idle / 53* Max Load (P95)
4.0Ghz - 1.360 (Auto) 1.235 (Manual) 32* Idle / 54-56* Max Load (P95)
4.2Ghz - (Same as 4.0) 1.295 (Manual) 36* Idle / 58-60* Max Load (P95)
4.5Ghz - 1.365 (Auto) 1.425 (Manual) 40-43* Idle / 70-73* Max Load (P95)
4.6Ghz+ 1.450 (Auto) 1.5+ (Manual) - Never stable. INSTA BSOD

The bolded clock is what I'm running right now. I'm happy with the speeds, but the temps are my main concern because I kind of need this chip to last..

So in your history of being here over the years, computer experience, and just straight up knowledge of how this stuff works. Given my sig rig specs, how long do you think this chip will last me given the specs, clock rate, and temps? Should I downclock and just roll with that? Or would I be fine running everything how it is now?

The little chart I typed up is just kind of showing what stability I get out of my chip. (Yeah I know, no golden chip by any means lol.)
 
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Have you tried turning "internal PLL overvoltage" on?
Have you set the short and long current limit high enough? (at 255 on each should be enough)
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usually processors/motherboards have a wall which when you hit it it requires a lot more vcore to jump over and hit the next frequency. problem is that often comes with the temp jumps you're looking at.

your temps are perfectly fine, but in my personal opinion i would downclock to the lower clock (4.2) just so your room doesn't get nearly as hot, and so your processor is "more stable" (i know people claim their procs are 24/7 stable at high frequencies and high voltages, but stability tests test full load stability and there is often a difference between prime/linx stable and real world usage stable). you won't see a bid difference betwixt 4.2 and 4.5
    
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Originally Posted by Tunagoblin;14428812 
Have you tried turning "internal PLL overvoltage" on?
Have you set the short and long current limit high enough? (at 255 on each should be enough)

I haven't yet. I'll give a shot when I get off work.
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usually processors/motherboards have a wall which when you hit it it requires a lot more vcore to jump over and hit the next frequency. problem is that often comes with the temp jumps you're looking at.

your temps are perfectly fine, but in my personal opinion i would downclock to the lower clock (4.2) just so your room doesn't get nearly as hot, and so your processor is "more stable" (i know people claim their procs are 24/7 stable at high frequencies and high voltages, but stability tests test full load stability and there is often a difference between prime/linx stable and real world usage stable). you won't see a bid difference betwixt 4.2 and 4.5

Hmm.. That's some food for thought, I appreciate it! If all else fails and things do get a little too hot, I'm going to downclock it.

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc;14428862 
usually processors/motherboards have a wall which when you hit it it requires a lot more vcore to jump over and hit the next frequency. problem is that often comes with the temp jumps you're looking at.

your temps are perfectly fine, but in my personal opinion i would downclock to the lower clock (4.2) just so your room doesn't get nearly as hot, and so your processor is "more stable" (i know people claim their procs are 24/7 stable at high frequencies and high voltages, but stability tests test full load stability and there is often a difference between prime/linx stable and real world usage stable). you won't see a bid difference betwixt 4.2 and 4.5

I'm pretty sure more than 90% of SB can get to 4.6.
Stable or not, if you can't even boot window at 4.6 then most likely something else other than CPU itself is limiting it unless he's got very poor chip.
He's voltage and temp looks fine until 4.5 so why does he have to lower the clock even lower?
nothing wrong with that 4.5 set up he's got.

Also I and many people here test our system very thoroughly.
Including idle tests and gaming along with stress testings.
We know what stable means. My 4.8 has been crash/freeze/BSOD free for about 2 months. Many others have same "stable" systems.
We aren't just saying it. We actually have the stable systems.
There's no such thing as "more stable".
Your system is either stable or not.
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Yeah, there are some vcore hungry SB's out there. Mine is about like yours except I don't mind running 1.5+ vcore. Had my SB for about 6 months now and pumping 1.475vcore for 4.7Ghz for 24/7 use.

You should get many years outta that Sb chip, your load temps could be better but they're not in the oh crap my chip is gonna die in a day temps.

And since you're only at 1.36vcore for everyday use not sure what worry you would have there as that is not going to cause severe degradation at all.

So yeah, imo you may need more vcore then some but that doesn't translate into a need to worry about the chip dying or anything.
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Originally Posted by Dustin1;14428777 
So, I've had my 2500k for almost 2 months now, and I've found that I have a few stable OC's but, BUT the vcore gap is crazy imo.

3.3Ghz - 1.220 (Auto) 28* Idle / 50* Max Load (P95)
3.8Ghz - 1.340 (Auto) 1.290 (Manual) 29* Idle / 53* Max Load (P95)
4.0Ghz - 1.360 (Auto) 1.235 (Manual) 32* Idle / 54-56* Max Load (P95)
4.2Ghz - (Same as 4.0) 1.295 (Manual) 36* Idle / 58-60* Max Load (P95)
4.5Ghz - 1.365 (Auto) 1.425 (Manual) 40-43* Idle / 70-73* Max Load (P95)
4.6Ghz+ 1.450 (Auto) 1.5+ (Manual) - Never stable. INSTA BSOD

The bolded clock is what I'm running right now. I'm happy with the speeds, but the temps are my main concern because I kind of need this chip to last..

So in your history of being here over the years, computer experience, and just straight up knowledge of how this stuff works. Given my sig rig specs, how long do you think this chip will last me given the specs, clock rate, and temps? Should I downclock and just roll with that? Or would I be fine running everything how it is now?

The little chart I typed up is just kind of showing what stability I get out of my chip. (Yeah I know, no golden chip by any means lol.)

maybe give more info about your OC settings? there maybe some more tweaks that can be done to lower your vcore.

with regards to the temps, it is a bit high but personally it is still acceptable if you are not going to fold/run your pc at full load 24/7. your pc will idle at 1V most of the time and normal pc usage and gaming won't push your cpu to those temps anyway biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Tunagoblin;14429107 
I'm pretty sure more than 90% of SB can get to 4.6.
Stable or not, if you can't even boot window at 4.6 then most likely something else other than CPU itself is limiting it unless he's got very poor chip.
He's voltage and temp looks fine until 4.5 so why does he have to lower the clock even lower?
nothing wrong with that 4.5 set up he's got.

Also I and many people here test our system very thoroughly.
Including idle tests and gaming along with stress testings.
We know what stable means. My 4.8 has been crash/freeze/BSOD free for about 2 months. Many others have same "stable" systems.
We aren't just saying it. We actually have the stable systems.
There's no such thing as "more stable".
Your system is either stable or not.

I can boot into windows at higher clocks but cores start to fail as soon as something starts to boot up and BSOD there after.

I'm also running P95 while I'm at work and having my step-brother monitor my temps while I'm away, so far so good. Just about 2 hours in and no BSOD or cores failing at the 4.5 setup max temp is about 68-71ish. I really appreciate your input and advice!
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Yeah, there are some vcore hungry SB's out there. Mine is about like yours except I don't mind running 1.5+ vcore. Had my SB for about 6 months now and pumping 1.475vcore for 4.7Ghz for 24/7 use.

You should get many years outta that Sb chip, your load temps could be better but they're not in the oh crap my chip is gonna die in a day temps.

And since you're only at 1.36vcore for everyday use not sure what worry you would have there as that is not going to cause severe degradation at all.

So yeah, imo you may need more vcore then some but that doesn't translate into a need to worry about the chip dying or anything.

But I also saw that your under water tongue.gif I just have a basic H50 cooling my CPU and fans for the rest of my system. But thanks for the advice, I think I'll keep my OC at 4.5 and try some other stuff to get the vcore down a bit and maybe invest into a loop or a better CPU cooler!
 
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Originally Posted by Nethermir;14429210 
maybe give more info about your OC settings? there maybe some more tweaks that can be done to lower your vcore.

with regards to the temps, it is a bit high but personally it is still acceptable if you are not going to fold/run your pc at full load 24/7. your pc will idle at 1V most of the time and normal pc usage and gaming won't push your cpu to those temps anyway biggrin.gif

I'll be posting my complete BIOs setup after I get home from work tonight! tongue.gif
 
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Originally Posted by Dustin1;14428777 
So, I've had my 2500k for almost 2 months now, and I've found that I have a few stable OC's but, BUT the vcore gap is crazy imo.

3.3Ghz - 1.220 (Auto) 28* Idle / 50* Max Load (P95)
3.8Ghz - 1.340 (Auto) 1.290 (Manual) 29* Idle / 53* Max Load (P95)
4.0Ghz - 1.360 (Auto) 1.235 (Manual) 32* Idle / 54-56* Max Load (P95)
4.2Ghz - (Same as 4.0) 1.295 (Manual) 36* Idle / 58-60* Max Load (P95)
4.5Ghz - 1.365 (Auto) 1.425 (Manual) 40-43* Idle / 70-73* Max Load (P95)
4.6Ghz+ 1.450 (Auto) 1.5+ (Manual) - Never stable. INSTA BSOD

The bolded clock is what I'm running right now. I'm happy with the speeds, but the temps are my main concern because I kind of need this chip to last..

So in your history of being here over the years, computer experience, and just straight up knowledge of how this stuff works. Given my sig rig specs, how long do you think this chip will last me given the specs, clock rate, and temps? Should I downclock and just roll with that? Or would I be fine running everything how it is now?

The little chart I typed up is just kind of showing what stability I get out of my chip. (Yeah I know, no golden chip by any means lol.)

I can't believe you're hitting those kinds of temps w/ an H50 regardless of your VCore at 4.5GHz. What's your ambiant temp? That could be contributing to the high temps. My sigrig is currently running at 4.7GHz with my VCore at 1.43 with a Hyper212+ and my temps never go over 68C (but my ambiant temp stays at 21C as my computer is in my basement office).

Personally, though, I don't think you have to worry about the temps. I ran my 2500K at 4.1GHz on the stock cooler for 2 months with my temps hovering around 80C and never had an issue. Is your chip going to degrade faster than stock? Yes. Fast enough for you to be concerned? No. These chips are made to last up to 10 years, so even if you knock a couple years off that, you're still going to replace your system before your chip gives out. Just because it's OCed and running a little hotter than stock, you're not going to lose that much in the lifespan. I mean, I don't know about yours, but mine stock was at about 58C on the stock cooler, so I wouldn't worry about being at 73C. JMHO. Hope it helps.
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