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Originally Posted by fl0w3n View Post
You pushed that card pretty hard, and if I remember correctly...you're the one who chipped a chip when installing that cooler...and took power tools to the card?

What are you complaining about again?
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Question is... Would this have happened had you not changed the cooler?
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How can you fault MSI when you replaced the cooler and ran the card above spec?

These are the risks we take as overclockers! Nothing is ever guaranteed beyond stock performance.
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You're blaming MSI because you put on an aftermarket cooler and your card blew up?.. wow...

You do know that the VRM/Memory heatsinks that come with Arctic (Cooling) coolers are terrible, right?.. Seriously.. -.-

And 1.1v is pretty high as well to be honest.
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You Voided the warranty, the card blew up and you are mad at MSI?...
I agree with these statements.
    
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OP you definitely fried your not quite golden 560Ti with too much voltage, must be noice working at MC... can you help finding/binning SB CPUs?

my cards will bench past 1Ghz no problem, but demanding games (metro, witcher2, crysis1/2) crash at anything above 950Mhz no matter what voltage..
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I am just covering my ass.

I don't normally blame the manufacturer to begin with but even when I took it out of the box and ran it at stock it was a little on the odd side.

Maybe I am pissed off because the card I got died on me before I could really push it.... anyways I got a new one so that is all that matters.
Sounds like you're stuck between being a "hardXcore bencher" and a casual user...pick one side or the other. If you are pissed off because the card died before you could really push it, then you need to get used to hardware dieing from pushing it. You don't see the guys with $1,000+ 990x's crying when they kill their chips, or $1200 worth of 580's biting the dust...that's the world you get into when you push hardware.

If you are really just some one who wants the card to work so you can keep gaming happily, then keep it within limits and normal means and keep your warranty and you'll be fine.

Pick one side or the other, you can't have both.

Now quit complaining, no one has sympathy for what you did and then trying to blame it on MSI. I don't even own MSI products and it bothers me that you are trying to rag on them as if it's their fault.
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also, your TF2 didnt blow up... your 560Ti did after you replced the TFII with Accelero extreme..

theory: the extra cooling allowed the card to run higher clocks without overtemp throttling for longer amounts of time.. ergo it fried.
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Originally Posted by fl0w3n View Post
You pushed that card pretty hard, and if I remember correctly...you're the one who chipped a chip when installing that cooler...and took power tools to the card?

What are you complaining about again?
As stated before that was on my EVGA card, not my MSI card. And I never chipped anything after installing the cooler bro, I clipped a chip with a DREMEL cutting a slot into a screw on the back of an EVGA card where I clipped a diode. THIS CARD IS PERFECTLY FINE AND HAS NOT BE PHYSICALLY DAMAGED!

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Question is... Would this have happened had you not changed the cooler?
Um... bro seriously? How the hell does changing a heat sink break something when you take off the stock carefully and put the aftermarket on it carefully as if it would blow up with the slightest knock. e-e

The stock MSI works just like the Accellero Xtreme Plus and blows air down onto the VRMs and heat memory. Where the TF2 heat sink failed was there was no cooling on the VRMs or memory. So as such, your conclusion baseless.

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Sounds like you're stuck between being a "hardXcore bencher" and a casual user...pick one side or the other. If you are pissed off because the card died before you could really push it, then you need to get used to hardware dieing from pushing it. You don't see the guys with $1,000+ 990x's crying when they kill their chips, or $1200 worth of 580's biting the dust...that's the world you get into when you push hardware.

If you are really just some one who wants the card to work so you can keep gaming happily, then keep it within limits and normal means and keep your warranty and you'll be fine.

Pick one side or the other, you can't have both.

Now quit complaining, no one has sympathy for what you did and then trying to blame it on MSI. I don't even own MSI products and it bothers me that you are trying to rag on them as if it's their fault.
In that kind of situation I would laugh because I knew I was pushing the card. Over the winter I ran my 5770s at 1100/1400 and my Q6600 at 4.2Ghz in a suicide run half expecting things to blow up, but was pleasently surprised when they didn't, now get off my back.
 
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Never had any issues with my Twin Frozr cards. Even when I just had the Lightning and had a high OC on it. I lowered my clocks when I went SLI to keep the heat down.
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Never had any issues with my Twin Frozr cards. Even when I just had the Lightning and had a high OC on it. I lowered my clocks when I went SLI to keep the heat down.
See and this is what I was expecting. No issues, just a cooler running card that runs cooler at a 1000 core. Really is that too much to ask for? But nope, card died before I could be happy with it for the next few months.
 
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As the end of the day, you take off the stock cooler and replace it, MSI (or whomever) cannot be held responsible for anything that happens to it after that point. Unless an MSI employee comes to your house and smashes your card to pieces, but that's unlikely.

Not all damage can be seen, you could have eaisly damaged something that you could not see, and caused the death of the card. Then again, you may not have, but you can't rule out the possibility as that's just...ignorant.

Cards are guaranteed to run at stock under stock cooling, nothing more. You wouldn't replace the engine in a Ford Focus with a V8 then complain to Ford when the transmission gave up, would you?

As much as I understand your anger, I think that is is wrongly directed, and your comments are very defensive, which isn't helping and if this thread just turns into a massive pissing war (which seems very possible at this point), it'll be locked.
    
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As the end of the day, you take off the stock cooler and replace it, MSI (or whomever) cannot be held responsible for anything that happens to it after that point. Unless an MSI employee comes to your house and smashes your card to pieces, but that's unlikely.

Not all damage can be seen, you could have eaisly damaged something that you could not see, and caused the death of the card. Then again, you may not have, but you can't rule out the possibility as that's just...ignorant.

Cards are guaranteed to run at stock under stock cooling, nothing more. You wouldn't replace the engine in a Ford Focus with a V8 then complain to Ford when the transmission gave up, would you?

As much as I understand your anger, I think that is is wrongly directed, and your comments are very defensive, which isn't helping and if this thread just turns into a massive pissing war (which seems very possible at this point), it'll be locked.
It already has so lock it.

I reviewed my anger and I am more pissed at the card than anything else.
 
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As the end of the day, you take off the stock cooler and replace it, MSI (or whomever) cannot be held responsible for anything that happens to it after that point. Unless an MSI employee comes to your house and smashes your card to pieces, but that's unlikely.

Not all damage can be seen, you could have eaisly damaged something that you could not see, and caused the death of the card. Then again, you may not have, but you can't rule out the possibility as that's just...ignorant.

Cards are guaranteed to run at stock under stock cooling, nothing more. You wouldn't replace the engine in a Ford Focus with a V8 then complain to Ford when the transmission gave up, would you?

As much as I understand your anger, I think that is is wrongly directed, and your comments are very defensive, which isn't helping and if this thread just turns into a massive pissing war (which seems very possible at this point), it'll be locked.
That's not legal in the USA. Changing coolers doesn't void warranties necessarily. To void a warranty they have to show that the act of whatever caused the failure.

You're analogy about the engine replacement is a ruse. The act of changing the cooler doesn't void the warranty just like changing the engine does not void the tranny warranty.
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