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I could be wrong but it seems by disabling it on my board requires more voltage just to boot.
Yeah, that's because disabling LLC allows for vDroop to work properly. So you needed the higher vcore to compensate for the vDroop.

Vdroop results in a lower voltage when the CPU is under any load.


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My board doesn't really have any LLC options. It has the CPU llc thing - On Off and auto, and then it has the CPU/NB llc with the same settings. You can't change how much.



I have also noticed that when I set the voltgage at a certain setting in the BIOS, when I boot up it is quite a bit more...like 1.47v in the bios equals between 1.5-1.512 just browsing the web. And when I put it at a full load like intel burn the voltage will jump to 1.548. Again this is all with the bios setting of 1.47v.....I don't like that. LOL

D
Then leave LLC fully disabled.
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Yeah, that's because disabling LLC allows for vDroop to work properly. So you needed the higher vcore to compensate for the vDroop.

Vdroop results in a lower voltage when the CPU is under any load.



Then leave LLC fully disabled.
So disabled on both CPU and CPU/NB?

D

I will try and see what happens...
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Ok, so everytime I log onto this website I learn something new.

I turned off LLC on both CPU and CPU/NB. It took 1.55v in the BIOS to get it to boot into windows without a low voltage BSOD. Once I am in windows CPU-Z shows 1.50-1.512 volts at idle/surfing web, and dropped to 1.46v upon running intel burn. So...that seems good, as I could up the voltage to say 1.60 in the bios and still stay below 1.55 running windows correct? And then under load it would stay even lower? So I guess I am going to try that and see what happens.

Any issue with having the bios voltage at like 1.65 or something as long as it isn't above 1.55 in CPU-Z?
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Ok, so everytime I log onto this website I learn something new.

I turned off LLC on both CPU and CPU/NB. It took 1.55v in the BIOS to get it to boot into windows without a low voltage BSOD. Once I am in windows CPU-Z shows 1.50-1.512 volts at idle/surfing web, and dropped to 1.46v upon running intel burn. So...that seems good, as I could up the voltage to say 1.60 in the bios and still stay below 1.55 running windows correct? And then under load it would stay even lower? So I guess I am going to try that and see what happens.

Any issue with having the bios voltage at like 1.65 or something as long as it isn't above 1.55 in CPU-Z?
I don't know, however were there any stability issues when you needed to compensate for the voltage in the other direction?
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I don't know, however were there any stability issues when you needed to compensate for the voltage in the other direction?
I don't understand the question. I only ran intelburn for about 1 min...as usually it would BSOD instantly with too little voltage.

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I don't understand the question. I only ran intelburn for about 1 min...as usually it would BSOD instantly with too little voltage.

D
The question is this:

Did you have any stability issues when LLC was enabled?

Right now you are compensating for vDroop. With LLC enabled, you're compensating for vRise.
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Well just tried to get it to run at 4.3. It will boot, it was showing 1.548 - 1.56v. As soon as I ran intelburn I got a 0x050 BSOD. Soooooo I gained nothing. LOL.

If I could get it to run at 1.55volts and STAY at 1.55 volts or near it I think I could hit 4.4, 4.3 for sure. But with LLC enabled it jumps up too high at the voltage needed to boot, and with LLC disabled voltage drops too far under load. So I am kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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The question is this:

Did you have any stability issues when LLC was enabled?

Right now you are compensating for vDroop. With LLC enabled, you're compensating for vRise.
The only issues were that I had to have it at 1.55 volts (in the bios, 1.53 according to CPU-Z) to get it to boot, BUT with LLC enabled the voltage would shoot up to 1.59ish under load.

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I could only get to 3.9ghz on my bloodrage gti, but with my current mobo I'm at 4.2ghz stable not that big of a difference but enough to make me smile. Same chip BTW.
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The only issues were that I had to have it at 1.55 volts (in the bios, 1.53 according to CPU-Z) to get it to boot, BUT with LLC enabled the voltage would shoot up to 1.59ish under load.

D
So then you can use a lower voltage with LLC enabled to compensate for the vRise in order to get the voltage you're after (you're right that CPU-Z shows the actual voltage running through the CPU).
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