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Ok so I am still trying to reach higher on a stable overclock. I can run 4.2 at 1.46v all day with 9-9-9-24. I have read alot about ram timings but I am dumb. LOL. Anyways, I am trying to hit higher but most of my BSOD when loading windows, or running intelburn point to ram in some sort of another. I kind of need a push or some suggestions on what to do. I booted up at 4.3ish with 1.51v but upon running intelburn I got the 0x050 bsod...leads me to believe I have an issue with ram timings.

Any ideas on what to try next?

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Ram freq. is at 1312mhz by the BIOS. Close as I could get to 1333.
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Use memtest86+ to test for memory stability. Bluescreens could be caused from many things. If it passes memtest86+ I would look to tweak elsewhere, such as CPU voltage. For 1333mhz you probably shouldn't need to increase CPU-NB voltage, but maybe at such a high frequency a bump to around 1.35v might help you out.
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Generic 1333 CL9 holds back OCs
You may not have a choice... if it is RAM instability, of course. 0x0...50 points to CPU instability. You may have hit your voltage wall at just above 4.2
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Generic 1333 CL9 holds back OCs
You may not have a choice... if it is RAM instability, of course. 0x0...50 points to CPU instability. You may have hit your voltage wall at just above 4.2
On a Black Edition? I don't understand. If anything lower frequency/higher latency memory stresses the memory controller less and would simply allow for higher NB frequency and higher OC in general.
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Generic 1333 CL9 holds back OCs
You may not have a choice... if it is RAM instability, of course. 0x0...50 points to CPU instability. You may have hit your voltage wall at just above 4.2
I have no idea what you just said. LOL

I thought 0x050... meant ram timing/freq instability? What is generic CL9? LOL

Do I need new ram? Better than this cheap stuff off of craigslist?

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On a Black Edition? I don't understand. If anything lower frequency/higher latency memory stresses the memory controller less and would simply allow for higher NB frequency and higher OC in general.
I can't seem to change any of the timings or frequencies without getting some sort of BSOD.

It is set at 9-9-9-24 right now, at 1333mhz. 9-9-9-27 didn't work, 8-8-8-24 didn't work even tried a combination of 8-9-8-24 and such. No luck.

My NB freq. is at 2600.

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Are you trying to increase the bus clock past 200Mhz? If so, the RAM (which is rated at 1333 CL9, or generic spec - basically, lowest end and usually not binned for OC at all) may be totally unable to OC (as raising the bus clock raises memory speed) causing hold back of overclocking. This could make sense of your errors, however I do know that 0x050 is usually CPU instability and not memory instability.

This may prove it:
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I can't seem to change any of the timings or frequencies without getting some sort of BSOD.
All 1333 CL9 RAM is low-end generic, not binned for overclocking like your performance DDR3-1600 and above kits or 1333 kits with enhanced (lower i.e. CL7) timings. Expect it to hold things back. DDR3-1600 often costs the same anyways.

Memory instability will usually throw MEMORY_MANAGEMENT, DRIVER_IRQL_etc, and 3b errors.... at least in my experience.
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Are you trying to increase the bus clock past 200Mhz? If so, the RAM (which is rated at 1333 CL9, or generic spec - basically, lowest end and usually not binned for OC at all) may be totally unable to OC (as raising the bus clock raises memory speed) causing hold back of overclocking. This could make sense of your errors, however I do know that 0x050 is usually CPU instability and not memory instability.

This may prove it:

All 1333 CL9 RAM is low-end generic, not binned for overclocking like your performance DDR3-1600 and above kits or 1333 kits with enhanced (lower i.e. CL7) timings. Expect it to hold things back. DDR3-1600 often costs the same anyways.

Memory instability will usually throw MEMORY_MANAGEMENT, DRIVER_IRQL_etc, and 3b errors.... at least in my experience.
Well even when I changed the bus speed I compensated by setting the ram freq. to as close to 1333 as possible and it was usually off by no more than 50. I have got the memory management and the Driver BSOD a few times as well. I will buy some new ram here in about 2 weeks.


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