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because they publish some great games that people want to play?

With all the hatred for Activision, EA, and Ubisoft, you haters must not have many quality games left to play.
actually a lot of the good games are made by indie developers that are startups so no, they do not have a shortage of games.
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Thing is, it effects people in ways outside of the game. Game companies are no longer merry bands of rebels that didn't get a "real" job and are making games for the love of it, ie: early Blizzard or id software, but multimillion dollar corperations.

Corperations that will do anything that is deemed acceptable to turn a profit. They're like a child, constantly probing what is acceptable, it's only when profit is in danger that they will back down from something.

So it's not only about how it effects ones Diablo3 gameplay right now, but in a broader sense.
I appreciate your opinion but it is no different than D2. I cannot blame Blizzard for embracing the trading community and trying to make a buck off of it.

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I think it actually does affect just about everyone.

It takes away a fundamental aspect of any RPG style game in that it diminishes the level of accomplishment the common, everyday player receives by mitigating the sense of achievement they receive from finally getting that "rare" piece of loot that they've grinded hours for.

Example 1:

Player 1: "Man, I finally got that awesome piece of gear. It took me like 25 boss kills and like 12 hours to finally get that damn thing to drop!"
Player 2: "Seriously man? Why didn't you just buy it from the AH for 2.50$. You could've saved yourself a lot of time."
Player 1: "Way the heck? Way to crap on all the effort I put man."

Now, let's apply this to say Warcraft, currently the most popular MMO.

Example 2:

Player 1: "Man, it took my 25 man guild like 6 weeks but we finally killed hardmode Arthus and get that sword that only has like a 3% to drop."
Player 2: "Why would you waste your time doing that? You could've just bought it off the AH for like 15 bucks and saved yourself the trouble."
Player 1: "What the heck? Way to crap on all the effort I put man."
Again, it is no different than DII. You can spend money to get whatever items that you want. So you have to make the same argument for not only Diablo III, but Diablo II as well.
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Clearly no one remembers Diablo II back before gold farming was the accepted norm. When it became the norm is when I quit playing.
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Here is my take, which probably has been stated in various posts found in this thread.

I think a lot of people are overreacting. I don't think a mainstream game of this stature has ever been released with a RMT auction house. This auction house is sort of revolutionary in that sense. It's hard to predict what will happen. I'm sure Blizzard will cautiously monitor how their auction house will develop over time in case it goes downhill somehow. To all of the faithful devotees of D2/D1, Blizzard is targeting a new audience. Sorry folks, but we are probably considered the "old" generation in their eyes-- i.e. ppl who enjoying the later facets of life such as getting married, getting full time jobs, managing a family, etc. They're looking to capture the younger generation as there is a huge potential market there. This will lead to the survival of Blizzard's company and a bright future I suppose.

Like many of you, I was pissed when I heard the news about this. But now, I'm going to get this game, like I was before, and just see how the AH develops. I don't plan on spending any real money.
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I'm sure Blizzard will cautiously monitor how their auction house will develop over time



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They're looking to capture the younger generation as there is a huge potential market there. This will lead to the survival of Blizzard's company and a bright future I suppose.
It's definitely their aim, I think they pretty much just want a wider range of customers in general, so called "casual" gamers.

It's part of the cancer caused by the big money in the games industry now. Coming from an "old school" gaming background, it's been like watching a meal from a michelin star restaurant degrade into McDonalds.


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Like many of you, I was pissed when I heard the news about this. But now, I'm going to get this game, like I was before, and just see how the AH develops. I don't plan on spending any real money.
Pretty much what most are going to do, much like the mw2 "boycot" everyone is going to get it anyway - Blizzard are banking on it.
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Yeah.. Nobody seems to remember DII? It's the same thing now.
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D3 is gonna blow chunks
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How is this going to affect your gaming experience? They obviously can't successfully stop the gold farmers, so they're going to let it happen and they're going to take their cut because it's their game world and their servers. They're going to effectively lower the gain made by goldfarmers because the market will be flooded. It won't be all that lucrative to be a gold farmer, so some of the chinafarmers might not get into the game because it's not lucrative.

I don't know if I'll be playing this, but I really don't care that they did this. It's a smart way to squeeze money out of people who play the game for somewhat nefarious reasons. I don't care if people buy their armor and what not, I'll still be there to make fun of them.
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They should clearly label the items both with real money so real players can point and laugh at the little kids that buy there armor
    
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Thing is, it effects people in ways outside of the game. Game companies are no longer merry bands of rebels that didn't get a "real" job and are making games for the love of it, ie: early Blizzard or id software, but multimillion dollar corperations.

Corperations that will do anything that is deemed acceptable to turn a profit. They're like a child, constantly probing what is acceptable, it's only when profit is in danger that they will back down from something.

So it's not only about how it effects ones Diablo3 gameplay right now, but in a broader sense.
Capitalism is a cruel, cruel mistress. This is obviously a quasi-unwanted side effect-- the game transforms from a relaxing, take your-mind-off-the-world experience to a money-making venture. I see this as inevitable: As our world becomes more and more digitized simultaneously that digitized world will become more politically and economically driven.

The way of the world.
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