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There was already a huge market in DII and it was already easy to trade/sell items. You and I both do not know how saturated the market will be with items, there is no way to tell at this point.
How many more people are gamers these days? How many more people know who Blizzard is now? They have expanded a lot and quite a lot of the market in D2 flourished after years of steady use. I am not saying your wrong, I am simply stating the fact there will be 10x the amount of rare items because 10x the amount of people are selling them. It will decrease the amount each sells for. Basic market stuff.

This is assuming everyday people want to try and make a buck, for all we know no one but the people who bought in D2 will buy in D3. I suppose that would make your point completely valid.
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How many more people are gamers these days? How many more people know who Blizzard is now? They have expanded a lot and quite a lot of the market in D2 flourished after years of steady use. I am not saying your wrong, I am simply stating the fact there will be 10x the amount of rare items because 10x the amount of people are selling them. It will decrease the amount each sells for. Basic market stuff.

This is assuming everyday people want to try and make a buck, for all we know no one but the people who bought in D2 will buy in D3. I suppose that would make your point completely valid.
You're right about the market stuff but Blizzard can adjust how often the items fall. Lowering the percent chance of an item falling = keeping rare items rare = keeps the market from being over saturated.
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I guess I can't be simple. I believe this IS what Blizzard is doing to stop farmers. By implementing a mass market and degrading the worth of all items by making it easy for everyone to sell any rarity of item they are making it harder for a farmer to truly profit from their trade. They will literally be drowning the market.
Gold farmers used to be (primarily) people overseas that would steal account and spend copious numbers of hours online farming items and gold in order to trade it for real world money.

Gold farmers will now be anyone who plays the game that spends copious numbers of hours online farming items and gold in order to trade it for real world money.

Blizzard is not doing *anything* to stamp out gold farming (the action of farming gold and items to sell for real world money), what they have done however is legitimize it, make it safer, but most importantly, they made it part of their business model. Anyone that thinks Blizzard is doing this to stop "gold farming" doesn't understand what gold farming is. Blizzard is implementing this because it will make them a lot of money, plain and simple. They are not doing it to stop gold farming.
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Lets be honest, its Item farming not Gold Farming... Who really played D2 for the story on their 18th toon going through hell? This game IS item farming. By making the auctions available to everyone and allowing people to sell items for gold on one auction house then sell that gold to get real cash to invest in the cash auction house... I think its just making the playing field more even.
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Beta.

The game most likely doesn't have full graphics options yet. I mean seriously, you really think they wouldn't add AA? SC2 has FULL of graphics options. D3 will be no different.

Also I agree with Blizzard. Players that play a lot and farm are really doing the same thing as gold farmers. D3 pretty much encourages it what with MFing and all.

Blizzard just wants a piece of the third party item selling market that was huge in d2. Can't blame them. Heck I'm happy they're adding this because now I don't have to go to third party sites to sell items.

For anyone with no experience selling virtual items/currency, you can make hundreds of dollars doing this. It can be a part time job if you play enough. Heck people have made businesses out of selling virtual items.
SC2 beta and SC2 now are almost the exact same in terms of graphics. Do you really think the graphics for D2 will be a night and day difference from the vids we can view right now that they revealed to the public? Answer is very obvious...
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SC2 beta and SC2 now are almost the exact same in terms of graphics. Do you really think the graphics for D2 will be a night and day difference from the vids we can view right now that they revealed to the public? Answer is very obvious...
Yea the answer is obvious: It will be different.

I know from experience. I'm in the SWTOR beta and I know how builds change drastically ( Note that I am allowed to say I'm in the beta ). Graphics options can be added in the last beta build before release. It all depends on the priority of the developers and what type of focus testing they want.

Also, d3 beta hasn't even started yet so your comparison is already invalid.
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The reason for a beta is to test the game before its final release. If the auction fails, it will obviously be removed from the final release.

As far as I am concerned, I think Blizzard will only keep their hand in the market as long as it puts money in their deep pockets. If they begin to show a deficit, I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard took their hand out of the market. I feel like Blizzard should/needs to be involved. I feel like Blizzard should control the market so it doesn't become overrun.
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Yea the answer is obvious: It will be different.

I know from experience. I'm in the SWTOR beta and I know how builds change drastically ( Note that I am allowed to say I'm in the beta ). Graphics options can be added in the last beta build before release. It all depends on the priority of the developers and what type of focus testing they want.

Also, d3 beta hasn't even started yet so your comparison is already invalid.
You're sidestepping a bit. What is the graphics difference between SC2 beta and SC2 now? Almost nothing. Do you think Blizzard is going to showcase crappy graphics to impress the masses right before Beta? You are naive if you think that D3 graphics will be night and day from the presentation vids that they released. The answer is that it will be more or less the same from what Blizzard has released. I am not talking about content, I am talking about graphics. Content will be improved from now till release, no doubt. Graphics is what we are talking about.

Also, the graphics and mechanics are one of the first things that game developers work on. Content comes afterwards. Again, very naive if you think the graphics at this stage will be dramatically different from the vids we've seen. They may add a better textures option, but that will not change the graphics dramatically.
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ITT: waahhhhh


None of you are ethical enough to boycott a game due to a single feature, or a single interview from the CEO. Just stop arguing the point and either buy the game or don't. It's really that simple.
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I haven't personally watched the videos that Blizzard has released about D3. What I can tell you is that when I started playing WoW in 2006 up to now, the graphics have come an absolute long way.

Let's say the game comes out with less-then-expected graphics. Who's to say the game doesn't get a tune-up after a couple months, maybe a year?

Let's face it: Blizzard has been dumping most of their eggs into the WoW basket. And why not? They have well over 10 million subscribers @14.99 a month (varying to the local currency and market). The game just works. How many times have you tried to explain an MMORPG to someone and found yourself comparing it to WoW.

I'm not trying to change the subject, but WoW is the king of games. For a long time to come, all MMORPG's will be compared to WoW. If I am the CEO of Bliizard, I am not going to take many resources away from the game that works AND brings in more profit then just game sales.

My two cents anyways...
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