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IMO theres nothing wrong with buying items off other players with real money.

How come no one complains about being able too purchase items off the developers for money, but they will complain when they can buy them off other players when the developers get a cut?

EDIT: Theres also this thing called SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

If everyones already trying too sell items too make money, whos going too buy them?

Only the really sought after/hard too get items will get any money. I dont think anyones going too make a lot of money on this. Maybe a few dollars or something.
Edited by jacobrjett - 8/2/11 at 9:05pm
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Ya, I have no problem with gold farmers, they just boost the supply of the market a ton so that prices will be nice and reasonable.
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How come no one complains about being able too purchase items off the developers for money, but they will complain when they can buy them off other players when the developers get a cut?
Ughh, that's because Blizzard won't be selling items? The Auction House will solely be selling items put up by players.
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- No LAN is nothing new. Barely any new games come out with it anymore. LAN was only great back then since it reduced lag significantly. It's not an issue anymore. Not to mention I see LAN as an excuse for pirates now honestly.

- No attributes has been explained by Blizzard and was actually an understandable decision. In D2 attributes were honestly trivial. Everyone just set their STR to the max that they need for their items, then pump dex to get 75% block, then pump it all to vit or energy or a mix of the two. Builds were already listed online which trivialized attributes.

Attributes became pretty much a placebo once everyone figured out builds and items. I see it as non issue in d3 now since I no longer have to worry about not having enough of a stat to equip an item while leveling up anymore ( Finding Tal Rasha's armor but not having nearly enough STR on my sorc when I was a noob ticked me off )

- Only mods I can think of for B.net were MH and Bots. These were never supported period. Open B.net was a joke also with all the hacked items.

- A DRM that requires you to be online while playing online? Mind = blown. If you want to play SP without an internet connection ( Really? L2tether if you're on the go ), play a different game.

- The real money AH is optional. Not to mention it was already huge in D2. If you didn't notice it in D2 then you are not affected. Blizzard just mainstreamed it which makes it safer for players that buy items. Not only that, but EVERYONE can sell items and make some dough if they want ( They will have weekly free listings for everyone )

Hopefully this puts you at ease since most of your points all deal with nostalgic features or features that don't affect the core diablo online play at all.
Single player games are supposed to be offline. Like... When you have no internet... At least that's what i do. They can't force it to be online only if not the whole world is online.

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Ya, I have no problem with gold farmers, they just boost the supply of the market a ton so that prices will be nice and reasonable.
That's not how botters think. What they do is they get 1 zillion goldz by botting, then they buy all available %name% then put it up for x10 the price. It's not supply (derp) and demand (derp) it's monopoly or bot more.
Edited by ilam3d - 8/2/11 at 9:13pm
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doublepost- delete.
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I'm sorry but that goes on in wow and doesnt make anything but the rarest items un obtainable. It happens because the system has enough players the small percentage of botters can't make a difference. If Blizzard keeps as hard a cap on the modders as they did/do on wow, dont worry about it.
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in diabloIII, gold farms you!
    
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I don't care, if every1 will be allowed to do what gold farmers are doing for ages, the market will be competitive, and there will be no real reason for gold farmers to exist
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  • Use B.net to play with your friends.
  • Attribute points are bad in DII. Ignore energy, just enough strength to wear certain items etc.
  • You have to actually play DIII
  • Why do you care if you aren't pirating etc
  • In-game gold auction house as well
* So I cannot play with my family members in the same household who I used to play D2 with unless we all buy copies for a total of $180? No thanks.

* Attribute points allowed you to customize your character and make strategic choices. By removing them you are essentially dumbing down the game and throwing thinking gamers to the curb.

* I take it you have never played D2. Either that or you have lived under a rock since 2000. There are a lot of mods for D2. Also by your logic mods ruin other games such as Half-Life. I guess Counter-Strike, Team Fortress Classic, The Specialists, Zombie Panic!, Sven Co-op, and Natural Selection were all abominations which completely ruined Half-Life...

* Maybe because you cannot depend on Blizzard's servers to always be there? Maybe because I am at college where the wifi is spotty and a dropped signal means the game shuts down? Maybe because I like to play RPGs while I'm out on the open seas on a cruise ship? Maybe there are a lot of places with spotty internet? Maybe because there are soldiers who are in the Middle East right now who like to play RPGs to pass the time?

* Encourages gold-mining sweatshops just so that Activision Blizzard can make a few bucks. Encourages the destruction of the competitive nature of the game. What is the point of competing if the people you are competing against just buy the highest level items? What is the value of these highest level items anyways? They certainly won't hold the same value as the highest level items in D2 did.
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* So I cannot play with my family members in the same household who I used to play D2 with unless we all buy copies for a total of $180? No thanks.

* Attribute points allowed you to customize your character and make strategic choices. By removing them you are essentially dumbing down the game and throwing thinking gamers to the curb.

* I take it you have never played D2. Either that or you have lived under a rock since 2000. There are a lot of mods for D2. Also by your logic mods ruin other games such as Half-Life. I guess Counter-Strike, Team Fortress Classic, The Specialists, Zombie Panic!, Sven Co-op, and Natural Selection were all abominations which completely ruined Half-Life...

* Maybe because you cannot depend on Blizzard's servers to always be there? Maybe because I am at college where the wifi is spotty and a dropped signal means the game shuts down? Maybe because I like to play RPGs while I'm out on the open seas on a cruise ship? Maybe there are a lot of places with spotty internet? Maybe because there are soldiers who are in the Middle East right now who like to play RPGs to pass the time?

* Encourages gold-mining sweatshops just so that Activision Blizzard can make a few bucks. Encourages the destruction of the competitive nature of the game. What is the point of competing if the people you are competing against just buy the highest level items? What is the value of these highest level items anyways? They certainly won't hold the same value as the highest level items in D2 did.

Thats how licensing works... You have to each buy a copy. The game is licensed to one install or one person... Just like office comes with 3 codes?

Just because they remove one way to customize does not mean they are not adding others. Runes are one very valid point to this. Do your research.

Some game companies enjoy mods. Did you know almost all those were licensed? Most of the mods made for D3 will be harmful to their live servers thus no modding.

This game is being made to be multiplayer. I think no one understands this. They really don't want you to ever be alone. it is the way the game is designed. Also if you were that desperate you would find a way to get internet.

And yea, those sweatshops will be around anyways because of corrupt governments not Blizzard. This game is first and foremost about finding loot. Thats why they have one story for 3 acts. If it was about pvp they wouldnt bother to make a story at all, if it was for the story they wouldnt have 3 acts they would have one continuous story.
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