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he basically said "we dont care that prisoners in china are forced from slave labor into sweat shops for the night to gold farm for hours on end without sleep and then return to labor camps for the day, as long as we are making a profit from it; GO TEAM ACTIVISION"

I cant believe they are not trying to stop this crap.
they tried to stop it in WoW and it failed. Nothing wrong with accepting the inevitable.
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agreed.. saw the online videos and it looks like crap, extremely repetitive crap, same animations over and over and over.
And underwhelming repetitive graphics are different than DI and DII?
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he basically said "we dont care that prisoners in china are forced from slave labor into sweat shops for the night to gold farm for hours on end without sleep and then return to labor camps for the day, as long as we are making a profit from it; GO TEAM ACTIVISION"

I cant believe they are not trying to stop this crap.
slave labor is china's problem to solve. Not Blizzards.
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slave labor is china's problem to solve. Not Blizzards.
That doesn't mean they need to promote it for profit.
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That is how licensing is these days if you buy from Activision Blizzard. Every game I have bought in the past year has supported LAN and multiple installs on computers you own just fine.

You said that mods would kill D2. From your statement either you believe D2 is oh so perfect that any mod would tarnish it or that mods ruin games in general. I choose to believe you believed the latter.

I guess it's also not your problem there are a lot of people who would want to play but cannot at all because they do not have a stable internet connection?
I still can't blame Blizzard for pushing 1 license 1 install. Multiple installs only applies to D2 LAN players anyway. I'm sure you know you could never have multiple computers using the same CD key on B.Net. You're in the minority if you need a LAN function that badly.

Where did I say mods killed D2? You made that up. That wouldn't even make sense because the game is still pretty popular after what, 11 years more/less? I also never believed that D2 was perfect, the game used to piss me off a lot actually. B.Net's servers were awful a lot of the time, duping was rampid and the game was full of bots. Hacks and bots qualify as mods and they did indeed tarnish D2. Any mod that gives an unfair advantage to one or more players should be banned. I'm not talking about campaign mods and things of the like.

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Regardless of the fact that it "was already happening in" and "D2JSP!!!", it doesn't mean that Blizzard had to put their stamp of approval on it. There are any number of measures that Blizzard could have put in place to combat it.

I'm well aware that it's "completely optional", hell, it'll be availble cracked on day of release if you want to play offline, so either way I can choose to play completely (bar fundamental gameplay changes) independant of the auction house.

The mere fact tha Blizzard are blatently and proudly creating this cash cow, which will result in even more farming and botting, pisses me off.

While not an active modder myself, Blizzards statements at Blizzcon last year of "modding has always been central to our games" and "the modding community will always been a part of our company" fall rather flat now
No they didn't have to "put their stamp of approval on it" but why wouldn't they? They know it isn't going anywhere so they might as well embrace it and implement it instead of fighting it. I really doubt they could have done much to stop it. How do they control third party websites and forums that operate completely independent of Diablo? Again, it isn't going anywhere.

Blizzard said themselves they don't even know if it is going to make them money. I find that really hard to believe but it is what they said.

Also I could be wrong but I think Blizzard only really encouraged modding in their RTS games.

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he basically said "we dont care that prisoners in china are forced from slave labor into sweat shops for the night to gold farm for hours on end without sleep and then return to labor camps for the day, as long as we are making a profit from it; GO TEAM ACTIVISION"

I cant believe they are not trying to stop this crap.
Blizzard can't control how people are playing their games so saying that "we dont care that prisoners in china are forced from slave labor into sweat shops" is pretty ridiculous. Why do you even care? It isn't effecting you at all.
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1 license 1 install is no different than a console. If you wanted to play a single player console game with someone else in your house, not only would you need 2 games, you'd also need 2 consoles. Get over it.

You guys can argue over stuff that isn't going to change. Meanwhile I'll be bashing mobs and buying stuff from the gold farmers.

Good day!


Edit: I forgot to add. So you're mad because with D2, for example, you were technically pirating the game by using the same install on 2+ pcs to play over LAN. You sure couldn't play on bnet with the same cd-key, so it had to be LAN. But now that you can't pirate the game in such a way it's a bad thing. Shame on you Blizzard!
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That's it minions, crush the naysayers!
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I still can't blame Blizzard for pushing 1 license 1 install. Multiple installs only applies to D2 LAN players anyway. I'm sure you know you could never have multiple computers using the same CD key on B.Net. You're in the minority if you need a LAN function that badly.


Yes, I guess I am in the minority when I want something that has been a standard in PC Gaming since it practically began. Not adhering to and not going above the standards makes a product inferior. D3 is inferior.

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Where did I say mods killed D2? You made that up.
Your reply to my "No mods" bullet point was this:

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You have to actually play DIII
Implying that mods ruin the game.

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B.Net's servers were awful a lot of the time, duping was rampid and the game was full of bots. Hacks and bots qualify as mods and they did indeed tarnish D2. Any mod that gives an unfair advantage to one or more players should be banned. I'm not talking about campaign mods and things of the like.
Out of my 16 years of PC Gaming I have never heard a hack referred to as a "mod". They're called hacks for a reason. They are an unauthorized intrusion into the game client. Mods are meaningful modifications to the game that are almost always licensed and authorized.

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1 license 1 install is no different than a console. If you wanted to play a single player console game with someone else in your house, not only would you need 2 games, you'd also need 2 consoles. Get over it.

You guys can argue over stuff that isn't going to change. Meanwhile I'll be bashing mobs and buying stuff from the gold farmers.

Good day!


Edit: I forgot to add. So you're mad because with D2, for example, you were technically pirating the game by using the same install on 2+ pcs to play over LAN. You sure couldn't play on bnet with the same cd-key, so it had to be LAN. But now that you can't pirate the game in such a way it's a bad thing. Shame on you Blizzard!
Are you a troll? Because it sure seems like it. By your logic I guess you can't backup your music to a CD either, because that would involve copying it from one medium you own to another medium you own. I guess you can't put music on your iPod either, because that would further duplicate it. According to your "logic" these two perfectly normal and reasonable things would classify as "piracy"...
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So I'm assuming this is going to be free? Since it has a free-to-play model. Or are they going to bait you in with the Diablo name that they just smeared through the mud? lol.
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Are you a troll? Because it sure seems like it. By your logic I guess you can't backup your music to a CD either, because that would involve copying it from one medium you own to another medium you own. I guess you can't put music on your iPod either, because that would further duplicate it. According to your "logic" these two perfectly normal and reasonable things would classify as "piracy"...
Backing something up and installing it on a completely different computer for someone else to use in tandem with yourself is an entirely different thing. If my logic is flawed then you must not have any at all.
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