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http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...gtx-470-a.html

If you have patience to check all the 30 pages you'll find some surprising results.

Just one of them on the first page:

Metro 2033: @ 1080p

compudaze ---- i7 2500K @ 5.1GHz ---- CFX HD 6950 Unlocked (1000/1450) ---- 88.46 FPS

BallaTheFeared ---- i5-2500k @ 5.2GHz ---- SLI GTX 470 (900/1750/2100) ---- 86.03 FPS

Think about it, GTX 470 @ 800-825MHz = GTX 570 stock performance which is more or less on par with an HD6970. At 900MHz we're talking HD6970 overclocked performance.
We can all agree that HD5850 OC or 5870 OC have no chance of reaching HD6970 OC, especially in tesselation heavy games.
Exactly. It took the guy w/the unlocked 6950's a couple of days to get to an OC where he *just* edged out my 470's (840/1800) in 3dMark11 (gpu score). I never did get him to post the LostPlanet 2 benches (I haven't been back to the thread in a while though), or Call of Pripyat Bench.

Granted not 'true' 6970's, but 470's at their top clocks in SLI are extremely competitive with unlocked 6950's, at least in 1080p resolution in DX11 tests.

The guy w/560ti's in SLI gave up, he was a good 10% behind my 470's on any test.

Smob's, I sold my 5850's for 470's, and couldn't be happier. They do DX11/Tess much better, and are comparable in DX9/10 when it comes to average FPS, but are noticeably better at maintain strong MIN framerates vs. 58xx series cards. Only thing better about 58xx cards is on reference cooling, they are def. quieter/cooler than 4xx-series on reference. Aftermarket cooling on Fermi's is the way to go if you want to OC them much, cause they do heat up quite a bit w/extra volts/clocks.
    
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Well you can pick up a 560Ti from evga for $180.. so its close..
You can hit 900+ on the core of a 560Ti easily, and they beat the 470 stock anyways.
I've owned both and unless you need that extra ram I agree. My Galaxy non refernece 470 could hit 850+, but it ate up an extra 120 watts and cooked my boys. Faster than a Ti, sure...louder than an aeroplane, definitely. Worth it? Not from my experience.

5870? Lol...enjoy the flickering random triangles instead of BF3 on release day...and for another 2 to 3 weeks.

Fwiw, I owned a 6870 for three days before that went back. Terrible OC potential, loud, and inconsistent BC2 performance. It put out less heat than my old 460 however. Probably because it wasn't really doing anything. ;-)
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I've owned both and unless you need that extra ram I agree. My Galaxy non refernece 470 could hit 850+, but it ate up an extra 120 watts and cooked my boys. Faster than a Ti, sure...louder than an aeroplane, definitely. Worth it? Not from my experience.

5870? Lol...enjoy the flickering random triangles instead of BF3 on release day...and for another 2 to 3 weeks.

Fwiw, I owned a 6870 for three days before that went back. Terrible OC potential, loud, and inconsistent BC2 performance. It put out less heat than my old 460 however. Probably because it wasn't really doing anything. ;-)
All valid points (although I've no idea what your talking about w/BF3). If less noise and lower power consumption are important to someone, the 560Ti is probably a better choice than a 470, depending on the price differential.

Due to noise and heat, I really don't like to game w/my cards over 1.05V, which puts my clocks at around 755c. This is about like a 560ti at maybe 925, where it still has headroom to spare in most cases and is unlikely to be all that loud.

So unless you're on water and/or don't care about noise and hot cards, the 560ti is the faster card while still keeping heat and noise in check. Not much faster though, not enough to change your playable settings.

Personally the reason I'd not trade my 470's for 560ti's is the vram. I see some games pushing over 1GB on a pretty regular basis.
    
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Personally the reason I'd not trade my 470's for 560ti's is the vram. I see some games pushing over 1GB on a pretty regular basis.
Thanks for touching on that! I'm only at 1680x1050 and BC2 hits upwards of 750 MB's of VRAM using 8x MSAA. That's with minimum framerates of 60 too. I'm a little concerned about BF3 because SLI might not be the answer anymore...at least with another 1 GB.
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Yeah I'm actually getting concerned about 1.28gb in SLI.

Crysis 2 runs ok for me but I get slow downs when it needs to load up new map areas.

However I think the real problem there is they did a terrible job of designing how vram is used. From what I can tell it simply loads up one entire "level" then when you hit a checkpoint and a new area starts it needs to load up that new area all at once.

I could be wrong, but that is what it feels like.
    
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I got burned with the first one when my 8800GT's + 680i choked all over the place. It would have ran better on my just sold 8800GTX + DFI Intel (965 or P35, don't remember).

Crysis 2 can wait til its in the bargain bin and I'm running a 3GB GTX 777. ;-)
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