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I have decided to upgrade the pc for the new games coming out shortly such as bf3 and diablo3 as my current pc is starting to get too old.
I was reffered to this forum by a friend who said I would be able to get some good input from knowledgeable ppl.

I have previously built my own pcs (about 8 years ago) but my last one was a pre-built hp but im ready to build a decent gaming pc now.

I have done some homework and I understand that the way to go is a 2500k as i wont be doing any encoding or video editing. So i will be building around this cpu and will hopefully overclock to roughly 4.2-4.4 with air cooling. I have a rough draft of the components that i want... but feel free to let me know if Im way off. I also want to see if you guys feel I should wait it out till the bulldozer chips come out?

I have started buying some items i found on sale:

cm storm scout case
corsair 600cx psu
corsair a50 cooler
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600mhz
1tb green ( have 1 lying around)


Upcoming purchases
i5 2500k
ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z Z68 ( after many reviews seems these boards are very good for the 2500k )
6870 video card (would add second later for cf)
60-120gb ssd depending on price for windows and common apps/games

thanks for all your input
Edited by simsin - 8/2/11 at 4:44pm
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Nobody can say what kind of performance BD will have. My guess is that the 2500k will still be the best for gaming but we'll have to wait until it releases to find out.
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Ok looks good, the green drive is bad as a boot drive, but since you have an ssd it will work ok just as a storage drive.

Speaking of the ssd, since you have a dedicated gpu as well it would be pointless to go z68. Jump down to p67 and save yourself some money, I recommend the asus p8p67 pro, one of the best boards out there. Probably save some money since the Maximum IV is a very expensive board, and you probably won't be using all of the features. The asus board drops into x8 x8 if you do cf so won't be a bottleneck.

6870 in cf has excellent scaling and will work great. AMD requires less power then nvidia so 600 watts should be enough. Looks like good ram, same that I have.

Don't get an OCZ ssd, they are prone to issues. I recommend the Crucial M4 or the Intel Sandforce based sata III drives.

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Nobody can say what kind of performance BD will have. My guess is that the 2500k will still be the best for gaming but we'll have to wait until it releases to find out.
I agree completely on this point, designing for an upgrade to BD is foolish IMO. We don't know what the performance output of this chips will be, but they most likely won't beat out the 2500k. If anything, you are leaving room to update to IB if you so desire next year, since they use the same socket as SB.
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Ok looks good, the green drive is bad as a boot drive, but since you have an ssd it will work ok just as a storage drive.

Speaking of the ssd, since you have a dedicated gpu as well it would be pointless to go z68. Jump down to p67 and save yourself some money, I recommend the asus p8p67 pro, one of the best boards out there. Probably save some money since the Maximum IV is a very expensive board, and you probably won't be using all of the features. The asus board drops into x8 x8 if you do cf so won't be a bottleneck.

6870 in cf has excellent scaling and will work great. AMD requires less power then nvidia so 600 watts should be enough. Looks like good ram, same that I have.

Don't get an OCZ ssd, they are prone to issues. I recommend the Crucial M4 or the Intel Sandforce based sata III drives.



I agree completely on this point, designing for an upgrade to BD is foolish IMO. We don't know what the performance output of this chips will be, but they most likely won't beat out the 2500k. If anything, you are leaving room to update to IB if you so desire next year, since they use the same socket as SB.
I found a site here in Canada that has the maximus for roughly 166$ CAD vs about 140$ froma quick search for the p8p67... what would be the differences

What about the SSD cacheing the z68 has would this be present with the p67 board?
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ssd caching would be usless since you are going to be using an ssd.

The two major benefits of z68 is ssd caching, you don't need, and bringing in the onboard graphics w/ cpu from the h67 chipset. Both are irrelevant by your parts.

Here is this deal:

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60217&...Bundle%20Deals
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thanks for all the helpful responses...

I see, So you suggest i use the SSD as my MAIN boot drive and the WD green as storage drive.

Could you please clarify would the SSD be as beneficial if it is setup as a regular boot hdd vs cached hdd with the z68?
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lets go about it this way.

If you use a mechanical drive and do not own an ssd, then the z68 chipset is going to use the caching to store and load information instead of waiting on the hdd to spin up and find it.

Because you have an ssd installed, its going to have a high 4k/iops speed which isn't going to need the caching feature because your system is already capable of it.

ssd as os and game drive. green as storage drive.
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