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Recently got an MCP355 + XSPC Dual Bay Res for DDC pumps for $70 shipped here off OCN. I sort of jumped on the deal not thinking about how low restriction my loop is. I know from previous research on water cooling and pumps that MCP355 pumps get extremely hot on low restriction loops, so I went searching for cooling methods. I found Swiftech's MCP35X heatsink which works for DDC/MCP3xx pumps, and I figured I'd use that.

It hit me that there isn't a lot of space between the wall of the XSPC res and where the MCP355 would get installed, so I did a mock up test to see if it would indeed fit, and there is just a hair less than 2/16" between the bottom of the pump and the side acrylic wall on the res (the SIDE wall, not the front wall where the ruler goes up to, picture below).

I'm not sure if the thermal pad that comes with the Swiftech heatsink is thick enough to make it to where the heatsink will clear the side wall? Should I shave down the side of the heatsink to be flush with with side wall? Or just use cheap heatsinks mounted to the bottom of the pump?

I do not have the MCP355 installed in the loop yet because of this dilemma. Any suggestions?

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dont worry about it making contact.

the swiftech heatsink replaces the stock housing? (so the clearance should be different)

i know the koolance one does. it makes good contact. its a nice upgrade.
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Originally Posted by NKrader;14443864 
dont worry about it making contact.

the swiftech heatsink replaces the stock housing? (so the clearance should be different)

i know the koolance one does. it makes good contact. its a nice upgrade.

The heatsink won't fit onto the pump the way it is unless the thermalpad is 2/16" thick. Also, the heatsink doesn't replace the housing, it just attaches to the bottom of the pump. I was looking at the koolance one, but no way I'm spending $40 on a heatsink for I pump I only spent ~$40 on.

I was debating finding a ~60mm heatsink to attach to the bottom with adhesive thermal tape, but I can't find a heatsink that'll work.
    
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Originally Posted by `br4dz-;14444151 
The heatsink won't fit onto the pump the way it is unless the thermalpad is 2/16" thick. Also, the heatsink doesn't replace the housing, it just attaches to the bottom of the pump. I was looking at the koolance one, but no way I'm spending $40 on a heatsink for I pump I only spent ~$40 on.

I was debating finding a ~60mm heatsink to attach to the bottom with adhesive thermal tape, but I can't find a heatsink that'll work.

just get the swiftech one. it works well. they wouldnt make somthing that didnt make proper contact. and if they did we would see tons of flame threads here. so your safe
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Originally Posted by NKrader;14444171 
just get the swiftech one. it works well. they wouldnt make somthing that didnt make proper contact. and if they did we would see tons of flame threads here. so your safe

You don't seem to completely understand the problem at hand. I've got an XSPC Dual bay reservoir that fits the MCP355 to it. The pump fits right alongside the one wall, almost touching it. The swiftech heatsink is 80mm in width, while the mcp355 pump is only 60mm, therefore the heatsink would be too big to fit on the pump when installed into that reservoir. Look at the picture in my first post, and then this:

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Originally Posted by `br4dz-;14444322 
You don't seem to completely understand the problem at hand. I've got an XSPC Dual bay reservoir that fits the MCP355 to it. The pump fits right alongside the one wall, almost touching it. The swiftech heatsink is 80mm in width, while the mcp355 pump is only 60mm, therefore the heatsink would be too big to fit on the pump when installed into that reservoir. Look at the picture in my first post, and then this:

MCP-HSF-2.jpg

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. it helps if i read.. im slowly learning how to read.. its hard.

lol. thats the reason why im getting the koolance one instead. as its the same size as the pump. and you can just dremel the mount down so it will fit anywhere. but as gravity will pull on the heatsink i doubt thermal tape will hold it on.
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Originally Posted by NKrader;14444359 
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. it helps if i read.. im slowly learning how to read.. its hard.

lol. thats the reason why im getting the koolance one instead. as its the same size as the pump. and you can just dremel the mount down so it will fit anywhere. but as gravity will pull on the heatsink i doubt thermal tape will hold it on.

Yeah, also debating finding a 60mm fan and using the 4 screw holes to mount it on, just would need longer M4 screws.
    
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Originally Posted by `br4dz-;14444322 
You don't seem to completely understand the problem at hand. I've got an XSPC Dual bay reservoir that fits the MCP355 to it. The pump fits right alongside the one wall, almost touching it. The swiftech heatsink is 80mm in width, while the mcp355 pump is only 60mm, therefore the heatsink would be too big to fit on the pump when installed into that reservoir. Look at the picture in my first post, and then this:

MCP-HSF-2.jpg

I've used both heatsinks, swiftechs and koolances. The swiftech is specially made for the 35x so it comes with a pump base with the screw holes integrated. You can't mount it on a non-35x without modding the base, thus further voiding yer warranty if your concerned about that. If you have a 355 that came w/o warranty stickers you can use koolances heatsink which I think works better anyways and it's lower profile too. The swiftech solution uses up stupid amount of height.

And all this btw, as you've noticed won't work in your space constraints. Move to a cylinder restop or separate reservoir.

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Originally Posted by tsm106;14444441 
I've used both heatsinks, swiftechs and koolances. The swiftech is specially made for the 35x so it comes with a pump base with the screw holes integrated. You can't mount it on a non-35x without modding the base, thus further voiding yer warranty if your concerned about that. If you have a 355 that came w/o warranty stickers you can use koolances heatsink which I think works better anyways and it's lower profile too. The swiftech solution uses up stupid amount of height.

And all this btw, as you've noticed won't work in your space constraints. Move to a cylinder restop or separate reservoir.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3548/p1080102p.jpg

My MCP355 has the holes for that heatsink, same two lil holes the MCP35x has. As for switching to a restop, I'm not spending that kind of money, but I was considering it. I'm low on cash as is, so if I can't come up with an easy on the budget solution, such as mounting a 60mm fan to the case of the pump, then I'm going to have to re-sell the parts. Thanks for the help though.
    
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If yer low on cash, just get sticker thermal tape and tape some heatsinks on the pump base. There's a thread where Martin shows which parts of the base produce the most heat. I can't remember the name of the thread for the life of me atm though.
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