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I'm going to receive a brand new replacement Razer Lycosa in the next day or two as I RMA'd my 1 year old one. I've really gotten used to the low profile keys and enjoy the feel of them, they feel fast and light to press, especially in gaming.

However, this whole mech keyboard phenomenon has finally caught my attention. I've not tried any, but from videos I quite like the clicky sound they make. But they're not low profile. Would I miss low profile if I bought one? At the moment, I'm back on my old cheap keyboard, non low profile. Does a mech keyboard feel as light to press and fast as a low profile, or, at least, faster than a standard dome keyboard?
    
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I'm going to receive a brand new replacement Razer Lycosa in the next day or two as I RMA'd my 1 year old one. I've really gotten used to the low profile keys and enjoy the feel of them, they feel fast and light to press, especially in gaming.

However, this whole mech keyboard phenomenon has finally caught my attention. I've not tried any, but from videos I quite like the clicky sound they make. But they're not low profile. Would I miss low profile if I bought one? At the moment, I'm back on my old cheap keyboard, non low profile. Does a mech keyboard feel as light to press and fast as a low profile, or, at least, faster than a standard dome keyboard?
It would be a little bit of a transition, but if you get a good mechanical keyboard, then you'll wonder how you ever stayed sane with the Lycosa.

I loved the Lycosa too and I was unwilling to try any other keyboard once I bought one. Even my dad noticed it and made an enthusiastic remark about it, and he doesn't pay attention to anything (heh).

Then one day I started having problems with the Lycosa which killed its usability. After a long trip through hell, I finally came out the other end with a nice mechanical keyboard and huge smile on my face. I bought a Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO (Cherry MX Blues). It's a good quality mechanical keyboard that is both tactile and clicky.

I've had it for 1½ years now, and it still continues to impress me to this day. The feel of every keystroke is second to none, and the whole keyboard makes the Lycosa feel like a very low quality flimsy toy that was made in China. Needless to say, I did not miss my Lycosa one bit once I started using this keyboard, and I still don't miss it.

Regarding the "clicky" sound you're hearing: the term "clicky" only refers to the sound of the switch, and the only popular (easy to find) clicky switches that I know of are the Cherry MX Blues, White ALPS, and the Buckling Springs. If you're ever listening to a keyboard that is described as "non-clicky", then any "click" sound you hear is described as "clack" (it comes from the sound of the keycaps getting bottomed out because the typist is hitting the keys instead of just pressing them). So a non-clicky keyboard is still "clacky".

Anyway, the final question you had is if a mechanical keyboard feels as light to press and as fast as a low profile or at least faster than a standard rubber dome board. Well, that depends. I mean, if you get a board with the Cherry MX Blues or Browns, then I guarantee that you will think it's a million times better. If you get a linear board (like Cherry MX Blacks), then you will still think it's much better, but it won't have that crisp tactile "bump" of resistance (it will just be you and the spring).

It can seem like a tough choice, but when you spend the time to make the right choice, you will be a billion times happier with it than any rubber dome keyboard.
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Despite being a long time buckling spring fanboy, I am quite fond of certain low-travel scissor switch boards, even moreso than certain mechanical switch keyboards I've tried. I switch between low travel scissor and full travel mechanical regularly without issue.

Many people insist on low travel boards because a) they are crisp compared with full travel rubber domes and b) you get fast response because you don't have to press the key that far. These also happen to be two of the selling points for most mech keyboards, so you're not losing out on much.
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But the Lycosa does not have scissor switches: it's just a rubber dome board with shorter keycaps.
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I myself am on a Lycosa as well. I ordered a Das Model S and it's coming in next week. Don't get me wrong, the Lycosa is great and all, but trying something like a mech board is a definite must. It'll be lovely for your typing as well as gaming. It generally has a much better feel.
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But the Lycosa does not have scissor switches: it's just a rubber dome board with shorter keycaps.
Oh, ok.

I guess that means that the low profile is superficial at best, at least in regards from adjusting from that style of keyboard to a more conventional full travel one.
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Oh, ok.

I guess that means that the low profile is superficial at best, at least in regards from adjusting from that style of keyboard to a more conventional full travel one.
It is indeed superficial.

When I upgraded from the Lycosa to the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click, the difference was as different as a moonless night and a bright sunny day. There is just no comparison.
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Thanks very much for the advice guys. I've checked out videos of various mech keyboards. The DAS ones look really nice and seem as though they'd feel awesome to type on, as do the filco. But they seem to be just the basic keyboard with no frills.

Problem with me though is that I also want a certain level of bells and whistles. Meaning, backlit, ability to remove keys, and maybe macro although tbh, I never used macro on my lycosa. So my first thought had been the black widow as it looks 'almost' as nice as the lycosa, but I hear it's not that good as far as mech keyboards and it apparently has a problem with the space bar pushing down adjacent buttons with it.

My biggest consideration right now then is the Q pad MK-80 which I can get for just under £100. That has cherry blue as TwoCables recommended, and is backlit. Would you recommend the Qpad?
    
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I've heard people recommend it before. Don't have any personal experience though.

When you say "Remove keys", do you mean disable them?
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Thanks very much for the advice guys. I've checked out videos of various mech keyboards. The DAS ones look really nice and seem as though they'd feel awesome to type on, as do the filco. But they seem to be just the basic keyboard with no frills.
The fact that their build quality is significantly higher than the Lycosa and that they're good mechanical keyboard are way more "frills" than any so-called "gaming" keyboard. I mean even though the Filco Majestouch has no "frills" or "features", it feels far more feature-rich than the Lycosa (for starters, it has 104 mechanical switches in it).


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Problem with me though is that I also want a certain level of bells and whistles. Meaning, backlit, ability to remove keys, and maybe macro although tbh, I never used macro on my lycosa. So my first thought had been the black widow as it looks 'almost' as nice as the lycosa, but I hear it's not that good as far as mech keyboards and it apparently has a problem with the space bar pushing down adjacent buttons with it.
Backlighting can be necessary for some, and absolutely unnecessary for others. Like I said, I upgraded from the Lycosa too. So, I wanted backlighting and everything else, but instead I got something a thousand times better: a Filco Majestouch. It's pure class, and pure quality. Pictures don't do the Das Model S and Filco Majestouch boards any justice whatsoever.

Mechanical keyboard keycaps can be removed whenever you want.

Anyway, you're right about the Black Widow: it's not 100% worth it.


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My biggest consideration right now then is the Q pad MK-80 which I can get for just under £100. That has cherry blue as TwoCables recommended, and is backlit. Would you recommend the Qpad?
I'm not recommending the Cherry MX Blues, but just expressing my love for them. Some people prefer the Cherry MX Browns. It's very much like food: everyone's tastes are different.

Anyway, I know nothing about the Qpad (I haven't heard of it yet, personally).
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