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Gonna say first out that I haven't done much research on new cards since the mid 2000's, the one I have currently is an old Creative SB X-Treme X-Fi (Audigy SE?) that I got back in 2006 I think. I am usually using a G35 headset from Logitech when gaming, so the headphone auto shutoff on the STX wouldn't really matter I wouldn't think.

I'm wondering how much better the audio would be compared to using the headset for gaming over getting a TiHD/STX and using a Logitech 5.1 surround setup?

I been looking into getting a new sound card recently since mine is def showing age, my G35 headset sounds soooo much better than the card I am currently using. Right now I am using my G35 for gaming and have music coming from my 5.1 setup. I listen to music a lot more than I game, but when I do game it's usually Rift, Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 2, Borderlands, Beat Hazard, etc. I am also going to be getting BF3 and SW:ToR and I honestly want to play those without headphones on me.

I'm looking to spend around $150-200 for a new card. My headset is fine and should last me a couple of years, it is a beast, and my Logitech X-540 setup is still holding up nicely I think anyways. Although if there are other options for a good sound setup, that advice is also welcome.

Been thinking about hardwiring a 12" Kicker Competition sub along with a bridged 500w amp to the set and losing the base sub it comes with. Never tried it before and seems overkill, but don't really have a use for it anymore besides selling it.
    
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Been thinking about hardwiring a 12" Kicker Competition sub along with a bridged 500w amp to the set and losing the base sub it comes with. Never tried it before and seems overkill, but don't really have a use for it anymore besides selling it.
If your motherboard has coaxial or optical output, find a cheap receiver and do this. I did this for my setup. I use the onboard 7.1 audio --> cheap "1000w" RCA receiver --> kickass Bose sub and surround speakers. It took some tweaking to get good sound from great speakers running on a mediocre receiver, but by having the receiver connected to the onboard audio I was able to tweak enough to get an awesome sound setup, better than either one simply on it's own. The bose sub has 2 6' subs in it, the thing brings the friggin pictures off the wall if I turn it up even half way.
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SP/Dif is the way to go, unless you really want a good card instead of an external dac/receiver.
In which case, for music use, the Asus Xonars are best, the X-fi titaniums for gamers.
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Well I had read that the Xonars were bad on some games, which I still do quite a bit of considering I'm a Game designer and play games quite frequently. How much better are the Xonars for music than the Titaniums? I can still use my headset for gaming, but like I said in the post, I want to be able to use my speakers for a while.

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If your motherboard has coaxial or optical output, find a cheap receiver and do this. I did this for my setup. I use the onboard 7.1 audio --> cheap "1000w" RCA receiver --> kickass Bose sub and surround speakers. It took some tweaking to get good sound from great speakers running on a mediocre receiver, but by having the receiver connected to the onboard audio I was able to tweak enough to get an awesome sound setup, better than either one simply on it's own. The bose sub has 2 6' subs in it, the thing brings the friggin pictures off the wall if I turn it up even half way.
The onboard audio is a Realtek chipset that I would think has crappy sound, never had good experiences with Realtek. Unless I'm reading it wrong, which is quite possible since it's early for me and I haven't messed with sound anymore than hooking up a sound card in the past.

Your saying using the Realtek along with a RCA receiver for the sub would generate some crisp albeit bass heavy sound? This one sub rattles the doors on my car with about 60% gain, can't hear the person next to you.
Edited by Shoulin - 8/3/11 at 10:21am
    
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Well I had read that the Xonars were bad on some games, which I still do quite a bit of considering I'm a Game designer and play games quite frequently. How much better are the Xonars for music than the Titaniums? I can still use my headset for gaming, but like I said in the post, I want to be able to use my speakers for a while.



The onboard audio is a Realtek chipset that I would think has crappy sound, never had good experiences with Realtek. Unless I'm reading it wrong, which is quite possible since it's early for me and I haven't messed with sound anymore than hooking up a sound card in the past.

Your saying using the Realtek along with a RCA receiver for the sub would generate some crisp albeit bass heavy sound? This one sub rattles the doors on my car with about 60% gain, can't hear the person next to you.
The only "bad" Xonar game I've come into contact to would be BC2. Even then, they're better than onboard by a large margin.
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But is it worth the price? I play BC2 on a regular basis, listen to music even more though. But the card is around $50 more than what I can get for the Titanium HD, how much better is the STX in music compared to the TiHD I guess is what it comes to?
    
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Late night bump before bed.

Decision is down to, how much better is the STX in music compared to the TiHD. Is the better music worth an extra $50 for the STX, or is it not much of a difference.
    
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Late night bump before bed.

Decision is down to, how much better is the STX in music compared to the TiHD. Is the better music worth an extra $50 for the STX, or is it not much of a difference.

If the STX is $50 more, the easy answer is the HD. Music sounds almost indiscernible between the two, and the HD has an edge in games. The STX can power higher impedance headphones easier, but that's really it.
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TiHD. You get the best between the two. music and games. And I doubt there is much between the two in terms of hearing the sound quality...its not gonna be night and day at all.

Hell for new mb onboard vs any dedicated soundcard is not night and day except for certain games
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TiHD. You get the best between the two. music and games. And I doubt there is much between the two in terms of hearing the sound quality...its not gonna be night and day at all.
No but many members here love to ride the popular bandwagon and claim that there is a big difference between the two for music playback. They preach it as if it's a fact which misleads many.
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