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No but many members here love to ride the popular bandwagon and claim that there is a big difference between the two for music playback. They preach it as if it's a fact which misleads many.
Well I don't let that fool me. Its my money I want to spend it the right way and I want what I can hear easily w/o straining my ear to hear that's how i figure out if its worth my money or not.

Have I owned an Essence before no, but going off of the difference between my onboard and Titanium HD, i can venture a reasonable guess that due to the lack of day and night difference between the two it is very unlikely that the essence and the TiHD will be night and day.

For some games yes. TiHD will sound better

At OP message the user RallyMaster he owns both he can tell you if he can hear a night and day difference between the two.

BTW I have a HD 555 not a crappy headphone if you are wondering what i use to test the TiHD and my onboard
post #12 of 26
Perhaps my post was not clear enough, if so I apologize. I was referring to the popular loose belief here on OCN that the ASUS STX is a better sounding card than the Titanium HD.

PS. Look at my system specs.
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post #13 of 26
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Perhaps my post was not clear enough, if so I apologize. I was referring to the popular loose belief here on OCN that the ASUS STX is a better sounding card than the Titanium HD.

PS. Look at my system specs.
yeah I know. And I am saying you are right and that it is probably true because for me I didn't (for music playback) hear a night and day difference between my onboard VT 2020 and the titanium HD. by the same token since both cards are dedicated cards and are high end the difference between the two wouldn't be night and day either (music playback).

Oh i see you own both. why do you have both of them?
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I have been anti-creative for as long as I could remember. I purchased the Asus STX the first year they were released since at that time they were the best soundcards. Eventually I purchased dedicated Audio equipment for my headphone HOBBY, such as DACS, DEDICATED headphone AMPS etc...

I am an avid gamer as well as an Audio lover. The Asus STX has a very serious flaw, you can't you Dolby headphone for gaming with the RCA outputs which is a major fail on Asus's part. The RCA out of both the ASUS and creative is superior to the mini jack and 1/4 headphone amp(STX). I use a variety of headphones which are all hooked up to a Dedicated amp. The STX's amp is adequate for the average user but does not compete with my $200-400 amps. My headphones are all expensive audio grade. I simply can't go back to using cheap under-performing onboard amps.

Now With Creative's EAX and CMSS(equivialnt to DH) works with the RCA output. More importantly I prefer creatives CMSS for games not to mention I play many older games which supported EAX.

When the titanium HD was released many of my respected and informed colleges had told me that the New Native Win 7 drivers drivers for the card were rock solid and that the sound quality was in the same league as the STX line. Essentially I now had a card with the best of both worlds.
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A dedicated sound card wont make a huge difference for speakers. You need to have a high quality amp and speakers to notice any difference. As for head phones I prefer to run thous thru my amp as well.
    
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post #16 of 26
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I have been anti-creative for as long as I could remember. I purchased the Asus STX the first year they were released since at that time they were the best soundcards. Eventually I purchased dedicated Audio equipment for my headphone HOBBY, such as DACS, DEDICATED headphone AMPS etc...

I am an avid gamer as well as an Audio lover. The Asus STX has a very serious flaw, you can't you Dolby headphone for gaming with the RCA outputs which is a major fail on Asus's part. The RCA out of both the ASUS and creative is superior to the mini jack and 1/4 headphone amp(STX). I use a variety of headphones which are all hooked up to a Dedicated amp. The STX's amp is adequate for the average user but does not compete with my $200-400 amps. My headphones are all expensive audio grade. I simply can't go back to using cheap under-performing onboard amps.

Now With Creative's EAX and CMSS(equivialnt to DH) works with the RCA output. More importantly I prefer creatives CMSS for games not to mention I play many older games which supported EAX.

When the titanium HD was released many of my respected and informed colleges had told me that the New Native Win 7 drivers drivers for the card were rock solid and that the sound quality was in the same league as the STX line. Essentially I now had a card with the best of both worlds.
I see. Thats probably why I don't hear much difference (music wise) with my HD 555 and my TiHD and onboard. The TiHD did amplify my sound and my bass got stronger when i tweaked the equalizer but that was it. so I need a better headphone, (high grade stuff) with dedicated amps to hear a clear difference.
post #17 of 26
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Sounds like the TiHD is the best way to go if you already have a system with it's own amp. I am also coming from a crappy old Audigy SE card from the mid 2000's, I'm sure I will hear a difference between the two. I also plan on getting the Z906 setup from Logitech here soon to replace my X-540 set, so that will def help to I would think.

As far as headphones go, the best pair I have is a set of Sony BASS phones from BestBuy. Granted that's not the best, my G35's sound better, but is there anything around the $80-100 range that is good quality or should I be looking around the same price as the card?
    
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Sounds like the TiHD is the best way to go if you already have a system with it's own amp. I am also coming from a crappy old Audigy SE card from the mid 2000's, I'm sure I will hear a difference between the two. I also plan on getting the Z906 setup from Logitech here soon to replace my X-540 set, so that will def help to I would think.

As far as headphones go, the best pair I have is a set of Sony BASS phones from BestBuy. Granted that's not the best, my G35's sound better, but is there anything around the $80-100 range that is good quality or should I be looking around the same price as the card?

i love mine. I wish it had more umph for bass but its not for bass heads but for people that enjoy sound...its accurate sound

but you can channell up the bass with that TiHD you are gonna buy. (I'm not saying the bass sucks its good, I just like the blow my head of bass) which my TiHD Eq gave me
post #19 of 26
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Amazon.com: Sennheiser HD555 Professional Headphones with Sound Channeling: Electronics

i love mine. I wish it had more umph for bass but its not for bass heads but for people that enjoy sound...its accurate sound

but you can channell up the bass with that TiHD you are gonna buy. (I'm not saying the bass sucks its good, I just like the blow my head of bass) which my TiHD Eq gave me
So after some reading, it seems the Z906 setup isn't as good as what I have currently. Also forgot the TiHD was only 2 channels, so that narrows it down a bit for me.

What are some good 2.1 setups that I am able to get for around $100? I hate losing the 5.1 surround that I have right now, but if there are some 2.1 setups better than what I got then I can use those for now until I can get an better 5.1-7.1 surround setup to use with the TiHD.

Also still looking for some decent headphones for music specifically, I am still gonna use my G35's for games. Been looking at 2 sets that are wireless from Sennheiser, but they have degraded sound if I remember right. Wireless would be nice since I am moving from computers alot when working on designing games. Also been looking at the AD700 set that is getting a lot of praise. An FYI, I listen to metal/rock most of the time, with techno and dubstep every once in a while for chill music.

Sennheiser PX 210 BT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826106439
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Audio-Technica AD700
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Audio-Technica A700 (Worth the extra $$$?)
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@edo101

Thanks for suggesting the HD555, forgot to look at that one. Included it on my list for now. How much better would you say they are compared to the others I have listed for what I listen to on a daily basis.

EDIT: Is there anyway to set my X-540 up with the TiHD for now? Even if I hook it up as 2.1.
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post #20 of 26
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A dedicated sound card wont make a huge difference for speakers. You need to have a high quality amp and speakers to notice any difference. As for head phones I prefer to run thous thru my amp as well.
The amp will only amplify the signal, however good or bad, from the source (soundcard). Also if the speakers are active, the source is more important.
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