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Hi, im building a new computer and i want to watercool it, im going to use the 800D and i want to cool a 2600K (can i OC it to 5ghz for 24/7?) and if my dad want i want the Hydro Copper 2 580 in sli, if not im going for Direct CU II, i did some research and i made something:

Koolance 370
Swiftech MCP355+XSPC top (is this ok? or is MCP655 better?. Also Swiftech or another brand?)
XSPC RX360
I want a cylinder reservoir, but i dont know witch one to get or what size
Tubing i want blue uv, i will talk about that later
Fans i like gelid wings 12 uv blue
Fittings i like bitspower Compression True Silver, but i dont know how many and witch ones to get

Here comes the another problems
first, coolant i read the best is destilated water+silver coil, and nothing else, but i want deep blue UV, i love the way this one looks (

) i want it to be the most uv reactive posible, so wats the best for this? i know dyes can damage blocks so if i dont unse dyes the reservoir wont have colour, wat can i do with that? also, where do u recomend to buy?? i live in argentina, but there is a way for me to get things from usa, sorry if i misspelled something and thanks
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Koolance 370 - Good

Swiftech MCP355+XSPC top (is this ok? or is MCP655 better?. Also Swiftech or another brand?) MCP655 is better, but better even than that is the MCP35x, I would personally go for one of the latter two.

XSPC RX360 - Good, you might want some more rad space for two GPUs though, of course the 800D can't fit it. Have you considered an external mounting of a 480 rad?

I want a cylinder reservoir, but i dont know witch one to get or what size - I have two danger den 200mm rad reses, they're really good

Tubing i want blue uv, i will talk about that later - primochill is what most recommend, but it costs a bit more.

Fans i like gelid wings 12 uv blue - don't know those, gentle typhoon AP-15s are generally the best, but of course expensive and no LEDs.

Fittings i like bitspower Compression True Silver, but i dont know how many and witch ones to get - just make sure the fitting match your tubing perfectly, which ones you need depends greatly on how you set the loop up. I would recommend looking at how you want to run the tubing around your system and thinking of the angles you will need at each point.
    
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Generally you will need 2 fittings per item in your loop. If you go with the true silver bitspower fittings you will not need a silver coil because the fittings will act as a biocide.

Pretty much all computer tubing brands have a UV blue option. Look into the primochill LRT, Feser tubing is also pretty good.

Swiftech MCP 355 is a great pump, and is actually what I'm running as well. I'm about to get a second one and a dual pump top for some redundancy.

I agree with Crabid, Gentle Typhoon AP-15s (1850 rpm) are typically the most recommended fans at least on OCN. They are what I'm currently using. Although they look pretty crappy they are pretty amazing in regards to airflow, pressure, and minimal noise.

I don't know much about the koolance 370, but koolance makes good stuff typically. I'm using an EK supreme HF which works amazingly for me, although EK has been having problems lately with their nickle plated stuff and a lot of people don't want to buy from them anymore because of it. (I'm still buying stuff from them)

Bitspower, EK, Dangerden, and a bunch of other companies make cylinder reservoirs. They should give you the height of the res so you need to make sure you can fit it into your case.

The 800D naturally fits a 360 rad in the top but can be modded to fit a 480 and then a 240 in the bottom. I second the recommendation that you will want more than 360mm of rad for 2 GPUs and a CPU.
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Here is my build. The last 3 pictures show my loop. I have Primochill ble UV tubing, 1/2x3/4 with compression fittings. The compression fittings have to match your tubing on ID and OD(inside diameter and outside diameter), I have Bitspower True silver compression fittings that work great.

Plus you can see my tube reservoir, made by Frozen_Q. Call the Liquid Fusion, but commonly called T-Virus(Blue version looks like its from Resident Evil). Mine is 250mm, but they come in different sizes. The size of the reservoir doesnt really make a difference, and honestly are not needed. But makes the loop easier to setup/maintain.

I am sure that radiator can handle the load, but may require high CFM fans since you are cooling 2X580s and a 2600k. Personally I would add a small radiator or two depending on what you can fit in your case.
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ok, so i need 8 fittings right?? i dont know about the coil, are their really made of silver?? and are they pure enought?
for the tubbing i know but i guess they are diferent blue, i mean i dont want see tru or something like that
for the pump now im more confused
fans i really like the look of the gelid wings, are they much improvement?? also, do i need a shroud or something like that?
for the reservoir i dont know what to look in them, i mean, how to know if its good or not
if i WC the gpus i thing im going to need to add a 240 one,
ohh btw i was thinking to put the pump on the floor of the case in the drive cage, good idea?
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XSPC RX### rads are very good radiators. I have a black ice SR1 360 that is also performing very well for me.

Mounting your pump on the floor of the drive cage should work perfectly as well. If you arent commited to the cilender res then you could also consider getting a Dual 5.25 res that fits the pump in it with a built in pump top. XSPC makes a really nice res like this for the MCP 355 (laing DDC) and I am using one.
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no i really want cilinder res, i thing im gonna have to put leds on it to make it blue..
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ok, so i need 8 fittings right?? i dont know about the coil, are their really made of silver?? and are they pure enought?
for the tubbing i know but i guess they are diferent blue, i mean i dont want see tru or something like that
for the pump now im more confused
fans i really like the look of the gelid wings, are they much improvement?? also, do i need a shroud or something like that?
for the reservoir i dont know what to look in them, i mean, how to know if its good or not
if i WC the gpus i thing im going to need to add a 240 one,
ohh btw i was thinking to put the pump on the floor of the case in the drive cage, good idea?
If you get a pump top, then you will need 10. 2 GPUs 1 CPU 1 reservoir 1 pump with top. Would be 5 components X 2 = 10 fittings. Now the deal is, can you use all normal compression fittings without any adapters or rotaries?? With two GPUs, I doubt it but I am not sure.

They are suppose to be real pure silver, but I have no way of checking.

The blue tubing I have, is almost a solid blue, until I get a UV light close then it looks like a really bright deep blue. I really like it. Going to order some UV CCFL soon to light up my tubes even more.

As for the pump and fans, I am sure they will work fine. May be better choices, but they will work.

Like I said earlier, reservoirs are the only component that you listed, that is not required. Only thing you need from it, is a reserve of water. But they can also be the hardest thing to place, for me at least it was, because of the limited port options. If you want blue in your reservoir without die, I would recommend some kinda of LED or CCFL.

But if you want to mount your pump in the top bays, then you might as well get a 5.25 bay reservoir. Most will allow you to mount your pump inside/with them. Which means less tubing and fittings.

EDIT: read that you are set on a tube reservoir. They are kinda pricey, but here is the best blue option for a reservoir without dyes.


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i think im now going with WC for the gpu, so how many then? i dont know if i need just the straight ones or another ones, what are the better choises for pump? i never understood how to know if some pumps are better than other, for the fans i want to know if its a big diference or not, if its like 1 degree then i dont mind, it wont change to much
the reservor its going to be mounted at the right of the motherboard

EDIT to awnser you : i dont want reservoir with that thing in the middle. I just want one of the normal ones.
also is worth getting a fan controller or they are quiet enought?
Edited by Juanchioo - 8/3/11 at 6:31am
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I forgot to count for both radiators in my fitting estimate. Sounds like you will need some 14 fittings. I would get 12 normal compression fittings, and 2 triple rotary compression fittings in case you need them. And maybe a 45 degree adapter or two.

Do you know the specs on the fans you want/have?? If they are 2000RPM plus, I would either get a fan controller, or use your MOBO to regulate the speed. When my fans reach 2000RPM, they drive me crazy. But others have 3000RPM fans and up.

For radiator fans, static pressure is just as important if not more than CFM. With the RX radiator, I would get some high pressure fans. Shrouds will help the air reach all of the radiator, instead of the "circle" of the fan. But it will make that thick radiator even thicker, and you may not have the space. I would use them if I could, but I dont have the room.

The video you posted, he has a UV light up top of the case. Which is making the tubing "glow". My tubing looks a lot like that, so if thats the look you want. You may want to get some UV lighting. The video also has 2x360 radiators.

EDIT: there are a bunch of normal tube style reservoirs. My only experience is with my T-Virus, so others will have to point you in the right direction. Read reviews on the one you buy, some do break/crack for no reason after a while.
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