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One simply does not fall in love with programming.
It just happens
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Yeah, and I did some research, USA definitely pays the best for computer industry within the whole world, nowhere else can compare.

But....US econ is so bad now, I guess it is hard for citizen or non-citizen like me to find a job. So the salary status only apply if someone can find a a job in USA with this kind of econ.
I agree the economy is bad in the US, however that is also the case for most of Europe as well. As far as I know Asia is the only section of the world still doing pretty well in the global economy, mainly China and Singapore. However those things fluctuate, it's hard to tell what the state of things will be in a few years.
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You have to do something with it that you enjoy...that gives you a rush...that makes you smile...that makes you go "YES!" and text ur friends about it...

I used to be like that. 20 years of programming has now got me going home and just either playing games or fixing the hardware.

So while you wanna be passionate about it...don't let it burn you out either.
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How much $ can a programmer earn per month in USA after paying tax?
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It's all lies - you don't fall in love with programming.

You all of a sudden get into stride with a language, think that it's all not so bad so you continue to do so until you burn out and it drives you insane, then you really can't be bothered with it.

Then one day you think it's not so bad, get more into it and it's all a vicious big circle!
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How much $ can a programmer earn per month in USA after paying tax?
I believe I already mentioned this one. It depends on what type of programmer you are, it's a wide range depending on the type. I haven't researched all programming types nationwide, but for video game programmers nationwide the average is about $50,000 starting with no prior experience and a bachelor's degree, and up to about $125,000 for lead programmers with 5+ years of experience and a bachelor's degree or greater. Tax varies based on which state you're in, but I would say it would be about 30% at $50,000 and around 50% at $125,000, so after tax that's $35,000-62,500 USD, per year.
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I believe I already mentioned this one. It depends on what type of programmer you are, it's a wide range depending on the type. I haven't researched all programming types nationwide, but for video game programmers nationwide the average is about $50,000 starting with no prior experience and a bachelor's degree, and up to about $125,000 for lead programmers with 5+ years of experience and a bachelor's degree or greater. Tax varies based on which state you're in, but I would say it would be about 30% at $50,000 and around 50% at $125,000, so after tax that's $35,000-62,500 USD, per year.
50%..that is crazy..here ..maximum is 17%..normally is like almost no tax to be like around 10%....anyway tax is very small % over here...just IT salary sucks comparing to finance industry.
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I believe I already mentioned this one. It depends on what type of programmer you are, it's a wide range depending on the type. I haven't researched all programming types nationwide, but for video game programmers nationwide the average is about $50,000 starting with no prior experience and a bachelor's degree, and up to about $125,000 for lead programmers with 5+ years of experience and a bachelor's degree or greater. Tax varies based on which state you're in, but I would say it would be about 30% at $50,000 and around 50% at $125,000, so after tax that's $35,000-62,500 USD, per year.
In US, do employee normally get "bonus"? Over here, most of the company pay the 13th month before Chinese New Year, that is common in most asian countries. So if people normally get 13 months salary instead of 12 months salary if work in a company for one whole year.
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In US, do employee normally get "bonus"? Over here, most of the company pay the 13th month before Chinese New Year, that is common in most asian countries. So if people normally get 13 months salary instead of 12 months salary if work in a company for one whole year.
Depends entirely on the company, I get up to 35% of my yearly income as a bonus each year, based on my personal performance and the performance of the company.

As far as the 50%, I was also including what the government takes for a program called social security, which is supposed to be returned to you after you reach retirement age. This is somewhat controversial at the moment because there are more people retiring now than the current funding can pay for, so at this pace there will be no money left by the time I retire. This is not taken out of the pay for immigrants because they're not citizens and therefore not entitled to social security benefits and so they're not required to pay into it.
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Depends entirely on the company, I get up to 35% of my yearly income as a bonus each year, based on my personal performance and the performance of the company.

As far as the 50%, I was also including what the government takes for a program called social security, which is supposed to be returned to you after you reach retirement age. This is somewhat controversial at the moment because there are more people retiring now than the current funding can pay for, so at this pace there will be no money left by the time I retire. This is not taken out of the pay for immigrants because they're not citizens and therefore not entitled to social security benefits and so they're not required to pay into it.
I know about the social security part. If not counting the social security part, then how much % for tax? Still around 30%-40% I guess? For an average programming job in usa, is there bonus normally?
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