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I know about the social security part. If not counting the social security part, then how much % for tax? Still around 30%-40% I guess? For an average programming job in usa, is there bonus normally?
Yea I'd say 35% is probably pretty close. I'd also guess that bonuses of some sort are likely for most programming positions.
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It's really something you just enjoy naturally. Once you reach a certain level it becomes more fun to discover the more efficient ways to code, and sometimes you manage to impress yourself. I have reached some pretty basic to standard levels in Python, C++ and a beginner ruby (I've done VBA and VB6 but don't really count them as programming). Try to impress yourself. Once you get the main techniques down for one language, it is quite simple learning another as the main thing you need to learn is the new syntax. Learn how to clean your works to make your mistakes more forgivable and if you are learning, learn by working on projects you enjoy.
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Yea I'd say 35% is probably pretty close. I'd also guess that bonuses of some sort are likely for most programming positions.
ic..then how much % of salary increase do programmers normally can expect annually in usa?
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God...those are some salary numbers you guys are quoting...I am 10 years into IT and my salary is around 70k (+ company contribution to benefits) right now. My only saving grace is that my po-dunk town does not need much to live well.
I am trying to teach myself C# right now. And it is correct that after full day of work and family things to take care of, it is hard to get motivated. But like someone pointed out, it is necessary to set a goal. My goal as to create a small utility using C# to automate one aspect of my job that will make my life easier. I am planning on proposing this utility to other divisions of my company that deals with similar situation and hoping to make it more robust (and perhaps make some more money - maybe the 100K+ salary you guys quoting - by getting promoted )
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ic..then how much % of salary increase do programmers normally can expect annually in usa?
Well if starting salary averages around $50,000, and after 5 years the average is around $90,000-$100,000, that's a $10,000 increase per year. Percentage-wise that is 20% increase the first year, 16% increase the second year, 14% the third year, 12% the fourth year, and 11% the fifth year. Of course this is just for video game programmers, I can't speak to other fields, except simulation programming, which is similar to video game programming but usually pays about 10-15% more. Video game programming is generally much more relaxing and interesting, unless simulation programming is really exciting for someone.

The gaming industry is volatile though, some studios bank everything on a game and if the game doesn't sell well the studio shuts down and lays off everyone, it's good to find a stable company that is continually working on well selling products. Here's some information about 2010 salaries: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3...ey_Results.php

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God...those are some salary numbers you guys are quoting...I am 10 years into IT and my salary is around 70k (+ company contribution to benefits) right now. My only saving grace is that my po-dunk town does not need much to live well.
I am trying to teach myself C# right now. And it is correct that after full day of work and family things to take care of, it is hard to get motivated. But like someone pointed out, it is necessary to set a goal. My goal as to create a small utility using C# to automate one aspect of my job that will make my life easier. I am planning on proposing this utility to other divisions of my company that deals with similar situation and hoping to make it more robust (and perhaps make some more money - maybe the 100K+ salary you guys quoting - by getting promoted )
Depends on the IT position, I make more money than all but one IT person in our building, and that one guy is the IT manager for the entire studio. I'm not quite to the 100k mark yet, however I'll likely hit that in the next two years as long as everything goes smoothly (like not having another big economic recession dip). It sounds like a good plan you have though, doing things like saving the company a lot of money is a good way to get a promotion, just make sure the stakeholders in your salary and position understand that it was you that make it and exactly how much it will save them. Never fails that some douche tries to take credit for things they didn't do, I always make it crystal clear what work I did, and did without help. I've had managers try and claim that it was their idea and that they've guided me, so I make sure to document my process so nobody can make claims like that.
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Depends on the IT position, I make more money than all but one IT person in our building, and that one guy is the IT manager for the entire studio. I'm not quite to the 100k mark yet, however I'll likely hit that in the next two years as long as everything goes smoothly (like not having another big economic recession dip). It sounds like a good plan you have though, doing things like saving the company a lot of money is a good way to get a promotion, just make sure the stakeholders in your salary and position understand that it was you that make it and exactly how much it will save them. Never fails that some douche tries to take credit for things they didn't do, I always make it crystal clear what work I did, and did without help. I've had managers try and claim that it was their idea and that they've guided me, so I make sure to document my process so nobody can make claims like that.
It also depends on the company and your location. I am thinking we are running a multinational sweatshop where I work - kidding, but could be true considering how skinny our IT outfit is
Guys doing same stuff as me that live in NY makes more dough.
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It also depends on the company and your location. I am thinking we are running a multinational sweatshop where I work - kidding, but could be true considering how skinny our IT outfit is
Guys doing same stuff as me that live in NY makes more dough.
Location and company are important. Cost of living is the biggest factor in relation to location. I make 15% less than a lot of programmers I know that live on the east or west coast, but their cost of living there is about 30-50% higher, so I actually am able to save more money. And as far as companies I know my company is paying more than two of the other video game companies in the area.
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God...those are some salary numbers you guys are quoting...I am 10 years into IT and my salary is around 70k (+ company contribution to benefits) right now. My only saving grace is that my po-dunk town does not need much to live well.
I am trying to teach myself C# right now. And it is correct that after full day of work and family things to take care of, it is hard to get motivated. But like someone pointed out, it is necessary to set a goal. My goal as to create a small utility using C# to automate one aspect of my job that will make my life easier. I am planning on proposing this utility to other divisions of my company that deals with similar situation and hoping to make it more robust (and perhaps make some more money - maybe the 100K+ salary you guys quoting - by getting promoted )
In my current city, only IT manager of a listed public company would make $ like 100K US dollars per year. There is no way a pure technical person to make that much $ in the whole Asia....
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Guys doing same stuff as me that live in NY makes more dough.
I'm in Newark, NJ..... 7 years experience and make over $100K after bonus.


But cost of living is higher.... and the hurricane is a coming!
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I'm in Newark, NJ..... 7 years experience and make over $100K after bonus.


But cost of living is higher.... and the hurricane is a coming!
What kind of programming do you do?
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