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Originally Posted by MinitroN View Post
Obviously the 580s are faster in some situations but the 6970s also wins handily in benchmarks.
http://www.hardocp.com/images/articl...7FAWTk_6_4.gif
I should have linked another page but I assumed people had the ability to click and look through the review. Maybe I should just repost the whole thing here since that doesn't seem to be happening.
The 3GB 580s won every apples to apples comparison in that review except F1 and BFBC2. And in response to the F1 results, the reviewers themselves said, "Performance is high with HD 6970 CFX in this game, but we've noticed this game leans heavily toward AMD in terms of performance. "

Cherry picking one bench doesn't really make your case.
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Originally Posted by dkim1359 View Post
MinitroN:



Are you sure you're not the one that's retarded or dyslexic?
I think he's comparing them to the 1.5gb GTX580s and they have much higher average fps in that graph.
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i swear this guy is on crack or something

can't even read properly what he posts lol
 
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Since I know this video card very well, I'll just leave it at my previous comment.

For anyone to suggest owning GTX580 = retarded, well, I'm sure that's how you feel about excesses such as Intel 980x, Ferrari Enzo, a 1200HP street car, a 20-bedroom mansion, and the US defense budget.

For some of us (not me), it's perfectly fine. Namecalling is for middle school bullies that need to show more courtesy.
    
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Since I know this video card very well, I'll just leave it at my previous comment.

For anyone to suggest owning GTX580 = retarded, well, I'm sure that's how you feel about excesses such as Intel 980x, Ferrari Enzo, a 1200HP street car, a 20-bedroom mansion, and the US defense budget.

For some of us (not me), it's perfectly fine. Namecalling is for middle school bullies that need to show more courtesy.
I would love a Ferrari even though I could probably custom build something for much less
 
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The 3GB 580s won every apples to apples comparison in that review except F1 and BFBC2. And in response to the F1 results, the reviewers themselves said, "Performance is high with HD 6970 CFX in this game, but we've noticed this game leans heavily toward AMD in terms of performance. "

Cherry picking one bench doesn't really make your case.
The 580 won 3 benchmarks and the 6970 won 2. I hardly think this implies the 580 is faster than the 6970, especially when they tied the remaining 2 games.

Dirt3 favors nvidia but you don't mention that.

I would rather see everyone read the conclusion where it says:
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When looking to the Radeon HD 6970 CFX with 2GB of RAM per GPU, it was more of a trading blows kind of scenario.
But you fanboys keep at it!
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I wish this hadn't of turned into a nvidia vs amd deal, I know that when buying 580 you are paying a premium, I just wanted to know how much the OC capabilities of the non-ref/twin frozr design helped to compensate for that. I would research this myself however I am quite sure all the reviews are done at the factory OC which to me is not a true representation of a card that was designed to OC well.
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post #48 of 64
Hm I should add:

The benchmark used should not have been the 3GB review. Instead, look at this:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...o_card_review/

That is 1.5GB vs 2GB direct comparison.

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The question was also one of performance and value: Is the N580GTX Lightning fast enough compared to the R6970 Lightning to justify its higher price? The N580GTX Lightning costs $139 USD more than the R6970 Lightning. Based on what we've witnessed, there is little doubt that the N580GTX Lightning will run with better playable settings in most games. As usual, actual value is determined not only by the product's intended application, but ultimately by the consumer. There is no doubt that many gamers will find little value in a product like the MSI N580GTX Lightning, even as cool a product as it is. But for some, it could be just what you're looking for.
But again, to each their own. If you have to justify every single dollar you spend in your life, then you need to take a step back and enjoy the outdoors.
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I wish this hadn't of turned into a nvidia vs amd deal, I know that when buying 580 you are paying a premium, I just wanted to know how much the OC capabilities of the non-ref/twin frozr design helped to compensate for that. I would research this myself however I am quite sure all the reviews are done at the factory OC which to me is not a true representation of a card that was designed to OC well.

A few things about overclocking:

- OVERCLOCKING IS NEVER GUARANTEED
- Results may vary
- YMMV
- See above 3

That said, for you to justify $150 more in price (single card) by overclocking is absolutely the wrong way to look at it.
    
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Hmmm, that would all be very interesting if the op had specified that he was interested in 3 monitor setups. At the most common resolutions (1200p and lower) the 6970's have no chance.

By the way, the only one who looks retarded in this thread is you...
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