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post #11 of 70
Rumors? I think not. Those blocks will fall apart even with a anticorrosive. The blocks were plated so poorly some of them have visible pores. I cannot say anything about the new blocks, but I would not be shocked if vendors ship the old blocks as new.
post #12 of 70
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We'll just have to see then

We'll be putting all the water cooling to some hardcore tests, and I believe it will do the job fine!
I have plenty of faith in EK that they will bounce back and continue to be a great water cooling competitor. Once the new blocks come out, I think people will find they've put in the time and effort to correct the problem.

As I understand there was only a problem with plated blocks - Everyone that I know that used EK Copper blocks couldn't be happier and wouldn't trade them for any other.

Everyone had their opinions, and that's why these forums are here! I'm really glad we've got some viewers on this thread and hope the build turns out as good as we're hoping.

I'll update with pictures as soon as the parts start rolling in
post #13 of 70
The copper blocks are not without issues; EK has been known to put out poorly machined blocks.
post #14 of 70
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Water system should be coming in on Monday - Tuesday. We were able to get the new Electroless (EN) blocks for both the CPU and VGA's.

Very excited to show that EK did their homework with the EN blocks
post #15 of 70
So, EK is sponsoring this build I assume?

Also, I may have missed something but who exactly is we?
post #16 of 70
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"We" are just a couple of Techs at our company that will be building the computer. This build isn't part of our job description - but we are just doing it for fun; to post pictures of the parts and the computer; and to ultimately set it up for folding@home.

We're going to building another computer with the same parts, but from different manufacturers, to see which computer is the better folder!
We're going to be folding for team 37726 & 111065 for 365 days, 24/7 for a year to see how many points we can rack up for each team.
post #17 of 70
May not be our business, but does "our company" = EK?

By the way, I take offense to "rumors" comment regarding harsh chemicals causing the corrosion. I can assure you that plain ol' distilled water is NOT harsh. After 10 days of using distilled, both of my EK blocks were corroding. Read it, no silver, no PTNuke, no additives, no aluminum, just typical tubing, copper radiators and nickel plated blocks.

Good luck with the EN products. I hope for EK's sake that their new plating process is better than their former.
 
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post #18 of 70
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"We" aren't affiliated with EK at all - We are in the VC business. I'd rather not go into detail about our company because we aren't here to sell out own products. Just sharing our build-logs!

I can understand why people are going away from EK. They probably made a poor decision, but ended up paying for it in the long run. People make mistakes, it's just a matter of if they fix the problem with better products and better customer retention. From what I heard, EK did replaced any corroded blocks upon request by the customer. Of course you wouldn't want to replace it with the same bad block, but I have faith they got a hold over whatever issues they were having (albeit bad materials, poor craftsmanship, etc...)
After a company takes a huge blow to their rep, they usually don't turn around and release something that has the same problems, to go for another round of being bashed.

I guess that's what I'm hear to show / discuss with everyone. Hopefully we'll be able to shed some light on these improved Nickel blocks.
post #19 of 70
I'm not a fan of EK after they treated me and several other customers like garbage. I had SEVEN nickel blocks failed on me.

Any EK nickel product that you will be using I would strongly recommend to look for the "EN" designation as this is their "updated" nickel plating process. I myself will not touch their products unless its free or grossly discounted in its least.

Glad to see another SD native

Go Bolts!
post #20 of 70
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Here's a good example -
"Creative" (that make audio products)... They made great audio equipment for YEARS and I loved their hardware. But the last few years something happened and they just kept releasing absolute crap into the market.
After getting totally bashed by the communities for their junk cards and whatnot, they came out with the Titanium HD. Now, I'm not talking about the overpriced (imho - lesser quality) Fatal1ty versions of the cards, but the standard Titanium X-Fi HD's... I can attest that this card is amazing. Of course there's always going to be faulty ones, and people that still continue to rip on Creative because of past decisions; but I honestly think they turned themselves around. ASUS released the Xonar Essence, and I think it woke them up to the fact they were no longer going to get away with crappy parts. Granted, they COULD have done better - but it's a start.

I own one of these cards and I'm very happy with it. Coupled with the ATH-M50's / Senn HD598's / ATH-A900 / Beyers (pick your poison), it puts out one hell of a sound.
I think the same can somewhat apply to EK. They have good products; made a bad turn somewhere along the line; realized their faults; and did something about it. I really hope I'm right about the EN blocks because I want them to become key competitor in the water market. I love their designs and I think they have potential. Same could be said for MANY tech companies, but there's been so many throughout the years, it's hard to remember them.
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