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I, too, doubt IPC will match SB. I wouldn't be totally shocked if it did, but I expect ≥Nehalem.
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post #42 of 85
Speaking of AMD roadmaps.







AMD roadmap from Financial Analyst Day on November 11, 2009.


Edited by 2010rig - 8/3/11 at 9:58pm
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post #43 of 85
Yada yada, more yada. Still speculation from unconfirmed sources. AMD has had one release date that was somewhat set in stone, and that is 30-90 days from whatever conference it was, can't remember off hand. All others have been rumors, came from a source of a source that works for AMD or a Motherboard manufacturer leak, etc. AMD themselves have never said any date out to the public other than the 30-90 days thing.

I'm sure they did plan on it coming out back in June since they had all their MB AIB's thinking it, but they never officially announced June to the general public. At worse it has been delayed one time from June, but I honestly don't think I would even count that one since they never came straight out and said it themselves to us, the public. All internal talk was hinted for June, so I really think they wanted it out then and was delayed, but that isn't a Public delay imo. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be here when it's here and no earlier or later.
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Let's hope for benchmarks to appear soon.
    
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I'll be very happy for AMD if Bulldozer can match Nehalem core for core, and I think that level of performance IS achievable (although we have no benchmarks to tell for sure). Matching Sandy Bridge core for core is pretty much an impossibility, and I think that most sane people, whether they prefer Intel or AMD, will agree with me on that one.
How is it impossible

You have 1 Bulldozer Core vs 1 Sandy Bridge Core

1 Bulldozer Core
1 Sandy Bridge Core

1 Core can do 2x128bit FP SSE
The other can't

1 Core can do 2x128bit Int SSE/AVX/MMX
The other can't

and there are more bigger mysteries about Bulldozer AMD isn't talking about
(I'll let the reviewers talk about that because the other little secrets are for them(I can't really explain what they do)

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I, too, doubt IPC will match SB. I wouldn't be totally shocked if it did, but I expect ≥Nehalem.
I can't really answer the IPC question anymore
2->7 is the number range per core

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Let's hope for benchmarks to appear soon.
I want it out the most
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are you sure you know what you are talking about seronx???
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are you sure you know what you are talking about seronx???
Ya

Reviews are the end all regardless...

Peak performance theoretically went up 3X(Single thread)
Peak performance theoretically went up/down 0.5-1.5X(Multithread)
Multithread performance is very iffy(alot of unknowns)

Everything is dependent on the Application
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Ya
you can understand some non basic logical stuff ... yet you're having problem understanding the simple concept of the bulldozer delayed subject???


+ wasnt sandy bridge able to do pretty much the same as bulldozer in term of instruction set or close to
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you can understand some non basic logical stuff ... yet you're having problem understanding the simple concept of the bulldozer delayed subject???
It wasn't, It will release when it wants to

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+ wasnt sandy bridge able to do pretty much the same as bulldozer in term of instruction set or close to
ISA support Bulldozer is 2X better than Sandy Bridge
Again, the factors effecting Bulldozer are the unknowns....We don't have an application to relate to

We get numbers that have no meaning
50% Throughput with 33% Cores
35% Performance Increase over the previous architecture
Yet no Application stated the last one was inferred for HPC
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Lol Seronx, your posts are hillarious. Don't ever change.
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