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Hi guys,

I want to OC the C2d in my sig even more.The CPU is capale.The problem is the motherboard.It have a fsb wall @ 416 MHz.To overcome it I have set PCI-E clock to 104.Tesing with that shows that it isnt effecting my GPU.GPU is stable @980 MHz with 1.2v in both cases,with and without PCI-E 104.

I have many options in bios i that i cant understand.I need help with them.

Here are the current settings:

First bracket contains the current value and second e one contain all the available value.
You can comment on any of them.Those i think i need help with are marked with "?".

1.
CPU SETTINGS
C1E [Enabled]
Hardware prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent cache line prefetcher [Enabled]
Max CPUID value limit [Disabled]
Intel visualization tech [Enabled]
CPU TM function [Enabled]
Execute disable bit [Enabled]
PCI latency timer [64]??????????
Peg port [Auto][Auto,disabled]?????????
OC SETTINGS
Intel speed step [Enabled]
Ratio [(grayed due to speed step being turned on)6x][6x,7x,8x](Can only change if speed step disabled)
CPU frequency [434] +1
OC retry [2]
FSB(Bsel) to Northbridge latch [Auto][800,1066.1333,1600]
DRAM frequency [DDR2 868] +2
DRAM SETTIGNS
DRAM Rcomp config [Auto]
Static tREAD value [auto](2T in cpuid)
Dram timings:
tRP [5]?
tRCD [5]?
tRAS [15]?
tWR [5]?
tRFC [44]?
tWTR [4]?
tRRD [4]?
tRTP [4]?
CLOCK GEN
PCI-E [104]
CPU clock scew [Auto][100-1500ps]???????
MCH clock scew[Auto][100-1500ps]?????????
CPU clock drive [Auto][700-1000mv]?????????
VOLTAGE CONFIGURATION
CPU [+.10]
DDR [+.10]
chipset overvoltage[+.10]??????
VTT overvoltage [Auto][+0.10,0.20,0.30]???????
CPU core1,2 GTL Ref voltage [.67*VTT]????????
CPU core2 GTL Ref voltage [.67*VTT]??????
MCH GTL Ref [.67*VTT]?????????
CPU PLL [1.5]???????

With those settings i am at 3.480 GHz,1.392V rock solid stable.
Can i tweak something?
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I would usually say BSEL mod it, changes socket timings in many cases. If your board supports 1600FSB i would look into the BSEL mod still. many boards have different timings for different CPU straps often times allowing for higher FSB's.
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I would usually say BSEL mod it, changes socket timings in many cases. If your board supports 1600FSB i would look into the BSEL mod still. many boards have different timings for different CPU straps often times allowing for higher FSB's.
Hmm,There is a BSEL mod which sets my CPU to 400 FSB but that's very low!Only 3.2 GHz.
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You can increase it from there. The idea is the different latencies involved. Some boards adjust dynamically with your settings, some boards rely on the default booted strap of the cpu. Kind of like memory timings. Your board looks like it might benefit from a higher strap.

This is what i had to do to get my E2160 and E2200 around 3.8-4.0ghz on a G31 board. other than that, 3.0 was stable max until BSEL modded.
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Okay i am going to bsel mod it.Can you help?
BTW the FSB limit is with the P43 chipset.Most probably imposed by intel to avoid P43 messing with P45 selling .
Edited by pteek - 8/3/11 at 9:07pm
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Quote:
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Okay i am going to bsel mod it.Can you help?
BTW the FSB limit is with the P43 chipset.Most probably imposed by intel to avoid P43 messing with P45 selling .
board must support 1600FSB cpu's natively though. I have neglected to check, so let me look.

edit: it does support 1600mhz.

You are going to need a conductive pen, or a window defrost repair kit to connect the conductivity of the pins.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...LAID=468196883

Repair kits a bit pricey from my findings. however the pen i have seen at mos electronic stores.

then you just need to follow this simple guide:

CLICK ME
Attachment 222949
The guide image also instructs to use aluminum tape to conduct the pins together or non-conductive tape over a single pin. I don't think the tape over the blue pin works in every board that supports 1600FSB, in some cases where i was modding, the tape was actually pushed off of the landing by the socket pin, so i really recommend the pen method.

As well as a mod for your required voltage at that FSB.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...mod-guide.html

This should keep you from needing better RAM, or a better motherboard.

edit 2: also, if the mod is unsuccessful, the conductive pen comes right off, so i recommend the pen.

Quick question before moving forward.

The bsel strap setting in your bios, does that only change your available memory speed settings? I havent seen that option since P35 was brand new and then it only effected the available memory settings, and not the FSB the board boots at.


Edited by Xinoxide - 8/3/11 at 9:45pm
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board must support 1600FSB cpu's natively though. I have neglected to check, so let me look.

edit: it does support 1600mhz.

You are going to need a conductive pen, or a window defrost repair kit to connect the conductivity of the pins.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...LAID=468196883

Repair kits a bit pricey from my findings. however the pen i have seen at mos electronic stores.

then you just need to follow this simple guide:

CLICK ME
Attachment 222949
The guide image also instructs to use aluminum tape to conduct the pins together or non-conductive tape over a single pin. I don't think the tape over the blue pin works in every board that supports 1600FSB, in some cases where i was modding, the tape was actually pushed off of the landing by the socket pin, so i really recommend the pen method.

As well as a mod for your required voltage at that FSB.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...mod-guide.html

This should keep you from needing better RAM, or a better motherboard.

edit 2: also, if the mod is unsuccessful, the conductive pen comes right off, so i recommend the pen.

Quick question before moving forward.

The bsel strap setting in your bios, does that only change your available memory speed settings? I havent seen that option since P35 was brand new and then it only effected the available memory settings, and not the FSB the board boots at.
Hey,so you are saying that either of them will work exact in same way.I can either connect both pins or just make the blue pin non conductive?

Can i set higher volt in motherboard?Or i will have to use the voltmod?
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Quick question before moving forward.

The bsel strap setting in your bios, does that only change your available memory speed settings? I havent seen that option since P35 was brand new and then it only effected the available memory settings, and not the FSB the board boots at.
Wait ill check and report.
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depending on your cpu's abilities, it might not boot without the booting voltage. but if the voltage required for 3.2ghz is low enough it may be just fine.

i also would like to know what if the BSEL setting in your bios only changes available MEMORY straps?

edit: okay.
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depending on your cpu's abilities, it might not boot without the booting voltage. but if the voltage required for 3.2ghz is low enough it may be just fine.
This cpu can do 3.2 fine at stock.
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i also would like to know what if the BSEL setting in your bios only changes available MEMORY straps?

edit: okay.
I checked.I put all bios settings to default.Then set the fsb-bsel latch to 1600.The cpu boots at 333(1333),So it just the max memory i think.Right?
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[Google] Shinob 100 cores @ 999 THz [Google] GL99P-80 [Google] Radia UHDX 790 [Google] Killer 256 GB@ 170 THz 
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[Google] Quantom ∞ GB @ 100 Tbit/s [Google] Rainbow-ray™ Ulta 560 [Google] Real™ OS [Google] Sorround HMD/DOTB 
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[Google] Hybrid C67 [Google] Extereme Variable output 100%E [Google] Full 999 ;) [Google] Sword Z5 gogool DPI 
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[Intel] Core i7 3570K  [Biostar] TZ77XE4 [Nvidia] GTX 670 [Samsung] DDR3 2X4GB 1600Mhz 1.35V 
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[CM] Hyper 212 EVO [Microsoft] Windows 7 Home premium Not decieded Generic 
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[Corsair] TX850 [NZXT] Phantom 410 [CM] Strom spwan 
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[Intel] Core2 Duo E6750 @ 3.48 GHz [Biostar] TP43E Combo [Sapphire] Radeon HD 6790 @ (980/1250/1.2v) [Dynet] DDRII 2+1 GB @870 MHz 5-5-5-15 
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[Hitachi/Seagate] Deskstar/Barracuda 250/160 GB [Samsung ] Write Master [Microsoft] Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit [Samsung] S22B370H 
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[HCL] PS/2 [Corsair] CX-500 [UMAX] ARMOR UC 9072 [QLX] CHEAP 
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Table [Lenovo] P950 [Philips] SHM 1900 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Google] Shinob 100 cores @ 999 THz [Google] GL99P-80 [Google] Radia UHDX 790 [Google] Killer 256 GB@ 170 THz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
[Google] Quantom ∞ GB @ 100 Tbit/s [Google] Rainbow-ray™ Ulta 560 [Google] Real™ OS [Google] Sorround HMD/DOTB 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
[Google] Hybrid C67 [Google] Extereme Variable output 100%E [Google] Full 999 ;) [Google] Sword Z5 gogool DPI 
Mouse Pad
[Google] Stock 
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